Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

I know who they are, you guys have not heard about them because they keep very quiet and do not advertise. One guy I know signed up more than 500 players for them, who play a lot.Everybody got paid. except for the props.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

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I know who they are, you guys have not heard about them because they keep very quiet and do not advertise. One guy I know signed up more than 500 players for them, who play a lot.Everybody got paid. except for the props.

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Dude you believe this crap? The above statement alone would convince me that someone is lying to you.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

There's a guy who I know who has a friend or boss or something who does sports-betting and is very successful at it.
He's trying to get enough money together so that he can purchase this guy's 'expert' picks.
They're pretty good friends so he knows that this isn't full of it or anything.

Evidently, the sports-expert guy buys his own radio time to promote his 1-900 number...and supposedly he wins 75% of the time. And if you don't win on his 5-star picks you get your money back.


The guy that wondered if I wanted to get into this with him refused to believe that it's impossible to win 75% of your sports-picks (as I informed him).
And insisted that this guy wasn't lying because he knows him really, really well.

If this guy really DOES buy the 'experts' picks he's going to be sorely disappointed at the results.




You REALLY REALLY need to consider the possibility that you've been had.

You also need to listen to yourself a bit.

They're the biggest Empire affiliate...yet nobody's heard of them because they don't advertise.

Don't you think somebody would have heard of them if they were the biggest?



I'm not saying it's a DEFINITE that you've been had.
But you seem completely unwilling to accept that it could be a possibility

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

I was just giving facts about what I know about them. I know a lot of players who signed up with them. All the non-props got paid, a lot of them are my friends. I know there is a lot of 2+2 posters who signed up with them, I wish they would read this and come forward.

I am seriously thinking I got taken as well. I never would deny that. I would just like to find out of anyone else knows more about this/could find out more info through someone else at empire.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

i am curious why you created this handle? Are you a lurker or a regular poster here. Seems you only appeared to make this post?

There are many affiliates who have more than 500 players with empire, whether they be rakeback affils or not.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

Also, this is an e-mail I got from the in-between guy:

Subject: Empire prop players..

Empire has informed me of three things:

!. Players on the prop list will not be paid for last month until our normal December pay date (15Th).

2. The total amount Empire owes you will be available to me this Friday.

3. The end date for all prop jobs ends this month on the 15th.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

I have been under this affiliate for a long time, and the info is correct. they are the biggest. I am waiting on my prop money as well.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

I have always read the posts here, but never posted myself. This whole deal really upset me, and I wanted to get to the bottom of it, and maybe someone here has more info about it.

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I am seriously thinking I got taken as well. I never would deny that.

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okay. just as long as you are considering that it's a possibility and are attempting to be objective about the situation.

Re: Empire did not pay me as a prop, did not even pay me rakeback
 

The e-mail I got was a little different, thought I would post it. Here it is:

Subject: Subject: Empire prop players..




Empire has informed me of three things:

!. Players on the prop list will not be paid for last month until our normal December pay date (15Th). This means you will not be paid on time this month.

2. The total amount Empire owes you will be available to me (as a figure, not cash) this Friday

3. The end date for all prop jobs ends this month on the 15th.