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when comparing two teams starting pichers its common practice, although perhaps not widely recognized as such, to exclude those players who aren't starting pitchers, such as a team's closer, from the comparison.

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Thanks CNNSI.com

Rivera, Mariano 10,500,000
Gordon, Tom 3,750,000
Rodriguez, Felix 3,150,000
Karsay, Steve 6,000,000
Quantrill, Paul 3,000,000
Stanton, Mike 4,000,000
Sturtze, Tanyon 850,000

Yankees: $31,250,000


Timlin, Mike 2,750,000
Myers, Mike 600,000
Halama, John 850,000
Foulke, Keith 7,500,000
Mantei, Matt 750,000
Embree, Alan 3,000,000
Schilling, Curt 14,500,000
Neal, Blaine 321,000

Red Sox: $30,271,000

Re: Ahhh, baseball. NYY vs Red Sox
 

the sox spent 20% more than the next closet team. not quite the yankess but still up there.

but what's really nuts to me is that when you include the amount the yankess have to pay because of these salaries (i.e. the 30ish million dollar luxury tax tab they have to pay in the fall on top of their 208 payroll), they'll spend ~115 million more than the sox's 124 (they have 750K in luxury tax I think), ~150 million more than the orioles and ~200 million more than the blue jays

the yankess payroll + luxury tax is well over 3 times the orioles payroll is ~5 times what the blue jays spent.

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I am a Houston fan and I have to say anyone that makes fun of the pay rolls of the Yankees or Red Sox is just jealous. There isn't a fan out there that didn't wish their owner would fork over whatever it took to win.

In Houston the GM has to walk around kissing McClane's ass, "Please let me spend some money, Please, I want Adam Dunn please"

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I am a Houston fan and I have to say anyone that makes fun of the pay rolls of the Yankees or Red Sox is just jealous. There isn't a fan out there that didn't wish their owner would fork over whatever it took to win.

In Houston the GM has to walk around kissing McClane's ass, "Please let me spend some money, Please, I want Adam Dunn please"

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thats the point i try to diffuse often. while the sox DO spend more money than the rest of baseball, they CANT fork over whatever it takes. if they could, pedro would still be here. the amount the sox spent this year is more than likely the ceiling for them (not taking into account inflation, tickets going up etc) the reason the NYY payroll stopped at 208 is because they simply ran out of people to buy.

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You are probably right. I think the difference is Sox and Yanks will do everything they CAN do in their budget. Other owners don't do that.

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doing stuff like paying bernie 13 million, mussina 19 million and kevin brown 15+ million is not doing what "it takes to win," and it certainly doesn't rouse feelings of jealousy. Maybe for you its jealousy, for a lot of people its like watching a car crash as you drive by or having an appreciation for absudist art.

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Don't get me wrong I hate the Yankees. I hate all the American League. But I do wish my owner took a chance and over paid a guy every now and then.

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doing stuff like paying bernie 13 million, mussina 19 million and kevin brown 15+ million is not doing what "it takes to win," and it certainly doesn't rouse feelings of jealousy. Maybe for you its jealousy, for a lot of people its like watching a car crash as you drive by or having an appreciation for absudist art.

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its moronic is what it is. thats the part that bothers me when people lump the sox in with the yankees when talking payroll. the majority of the money the sox spend is well spent (and even the largest misapplication of funds, ramirez, was done by a previous group).

btw JR, you left Giambi out of your rant.

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btw JR, you left Giambi out of your rant.

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Millar OPS: 710

Giambi OPS: 890

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btw JR, you left Giambi out of your rant.

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Millar OPS: 710

Giambi OPS: 890

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And for another stat: Mussina ERA tonight: 108

No, he doesn't pwn.