Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

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To me the 3 bet on the flop means AK. And I give serious consideration to folding there.

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This is a VERY easy fold to a 3-bet. But there was just one raise in this case.

Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

I'd fold pre-flop to a tight raiser.

Rest of the hand looks fine, sucks that he had the K.

Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

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If MP2 were Clarkmeister, wouldn't you be giving up quite a bit by folding to his raise here?

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No, cause he's gonna make me lose even more by outplaying me postflop.

Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

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To me the 3 bet on the flop means AK. And I give serious consideration to folding there.

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I'd probably think I'm gonna lose more often than not, but I likely have some outs and I could still have the best hand against an aggressive AJ or another AQ or even a flush draw like K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

Nottom:

The real mistake would have been sitting at his table in the first place. 3-betting here or folding is minor compared to that mistake.

--Rico

Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

Meh, I don't mind sitting with a better player as long as there are plenty of fish to go around.

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Meh, I don't mind sitting with a better player as long as there are plenty of fish to go around.

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I was saying it in jest more than anything.....should have included a [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] .

--Rico

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Re: AQo against a tight aggressive
 

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Al Mirpuri:

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MP2. Read is tight aggressive.


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Preflop: MP2 raises....

This should have ended your hand right there.


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Absolutely right.

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This is not solely directed to you Al, but to everyone who is saying "TAG raises, fold AQ." While I agree that I would probably fold here most of the time, I do not think 3-betting here is all that bad against a TAG raise. This is not an EP raise...MP2 is raising one limper 2 off of the button. Most TAGs (at least most 2+2 type TAGs) are raising a wide range of hands here. I understand that your position sucks, and that makes me lean toward a fold, especially if I did not know my opponent well. If MP2 were Clarkmeister, wouldn't you be giving up quite a bit by folding to his raise here? Am I all alone in thinking that a 3-bet is not a distant 2nd choice in the situation described?

--Rico

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Against a good tight aggressive player, meaning a winning aggressive player, not a weak tight predictable but still aggressive preflop player, folding is out of the question.

You mentioned me. Let's go with that, only it's not me, it's someone with my range of raising hands in that spot. AQ is simply too much hand to fold to a good player's raise there. Folding is out of the question. 3-betting is fine, as is calling. Which you prefer should be a situational thing.

But a good tight aggressive player will be raising the limper (even from MP2) with hands like ATs, AJ, KQo, KJs, QJs etc. And that's not even particularly wide. If I think the player in front is weak, and I read the blinds as tight, I might open it up to include hands like A9s, 77, KJo. AQo does very well against this range of hands, even out of position.

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All of what you say is true. In my experience with these games its much more likely this "tight aggressive" player isn't the type of player you are describing, and much more likely a person with quite rigid raising standards, most of which aren't things I want to be playing AQ against out of position. With the lack of a more accurate description of the raiser (i.e. Pokertracker say he has PFR-10% or soemthing like that), I would fold to a raise. In contrast, I would 3-bet myself in a heartbeat with AQ most of the time.