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Sponger15SB 12-19-2005 09:41 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
My guess is you could probably email Daniel and have lunch with him for free, provided it was an incredibly nice meal or something.

Kissing optional though.

sublime 12-19-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
a guy with an IQ of 156

lapoker17 12-19-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
i think that it would be possible to have lunch with nearly any person in the world for free. 6 degrees of separation style.

but i choose rickey henderson.

sublime 12-19-2005 09:54 PM

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i think that it would be possible to have lunch with nearly any person in the world for free. 6 degrees of separation style.

but i choose rickey henderson.

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not a bad choice. how about ted williams if he was alive (and sane)?

12-19-2005 10:16 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Id pay that much to eat with bin laden, then try to kill him cuz the reward would be many mill.

Evan 12-19-2005 10:31 PM

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For me, it'd be a no-brainer. With the basic investing sense I already have and my current net worth, combined with future earnings potential, I'd know how to get my $16k worth out of that lunch.

I guess I may have overestimated how many people would be making a +EV decision by eating lunch with Buffett, but if you knew what to ask him and what to do with his answers, you don't need much in terms of assets to make him worth your while. There are a lot of smart people who work very hard to make sure Mr. Buffett's money is well-invested. I definitely think the work put into those decisions, combined with Buffett's knowledge and hard work is worth more than 16k.

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This was my first thought too. There was a charity auction a while back that got way more than 16K, by the way.

Also, whoever said "just read the Intelligent Investor, it has his whole investment philosophy" is *far* from correct

Which is not to say that the lunch would be worth 16K unless you have significantly more than 16K in investable assets. Like several hundred thousand at the minimum. I'm sure an hour conversation could make you a notch or two better as an investor, if you already know what you are doing and ask the right questions, but it's not like he's giving away a monster tip or a magic formula. Anyone who has followed his career should know that.

My answer to the OP is no one. If i had a couple million, there might be a few.

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The things Buffett would tell you wouldn't be anything ground breaking. I think a good analogy would be if you wanted to have lunch with Barry Bonds and thought it would make you a great hitter. There's no secret to how you hit a baseball, it's just a matter of how good you are at doing those things.

LearnedfromTV 12-19-2005 10:39 PM

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L4TV,

That is not how investing works. That ".1% aha nugget" is just as likely to come from watching some imbecile like Jim Cramer on TV for an hour as it is to come from Buffett. In fact, for the educated investor, it's probably more likely to come from some moron than from Buffett.

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"That's not how investing works" - Thanks coach. I'm not Buffett but I'm not a two year old.

I'm not talking about a hot tip. I only used the .1% (I was off by a factor of 10, i'm surprised you didn't notice) to make the point that it wouldn't take much additional insight to make the conversation worthwhile for someone with enough money, especially when you consider that whatever you learn can be applied for many years, not just one. Insight into the process, not a special valuation trick. An hour or two is not a long time, but it's not a short time either, for a one-on-one.

MrMon 12-19-2005 10:45 PM

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I think a good analogy would be if you wanted to have lunch with Barry Bonds and thought it would make you a great hitter. He'd tell you he doesn't eat lunch with white boys and no honky mother******* can play baseball anyway.

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LearnedfromTV 12-19-2005 10:45 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 

The things Buffett would tell you wouldn't be anything ground breaking. I think a good analogy would be if you wanted to have lunch with Barry Bonds and thought it would make you a great hitter. There's no secret to how you hit a baseball, it's just a matter of how good you are at doing those things.

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Except hitting a baseball is a physical skill, investing is mental. Time with a great hitting coach (not necessarily Bonds) at the batting cages, for a very good hitter, could make for a tiny improvement in approach that he would use on his own over time to make for a meaningful improvement in results. Or a week at a good basketball camp. Or a conversation with a great thinker who is expert in a subject you know a lot about.

Leaky Eye 12-19-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
I am available for lunches at 1K per.

I would pay to have lunch with a President, or king or queen in their palace.

Clarkmeister 12-19-2005 11:02 PM

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Clarkmeister.

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I can broker this one for a mere 10% commission. PM me.

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Ed,

He seems like a nice guy. Let's give him a 15% discount.

Clarkmeister

Ulysses 12-19-2005 11:03 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
L4TV,

I didn't say you are a two-year-old, just that you seem to have little realistic concept about what you would gain from a one to two hour conversation with Warren Buffett.

Let's say you are Julian Robertson and you are talking to George Soros about certain global macroeconomic factors or currency arbitrage strategies, that's one thing. But if you sit down w/ George for an hour and are like "yo, George, let's chat a little bit about leveraging global macroeconomic factors in trading decsions" you're likely to get a helluva lot less out of that than poring over his writings and strategies.

The same goes for Buffett. To think that you as an individual investor are going to get insights into investing that are different or deeper than what you'd get out of his books/articles/strategies from a single lunch with him is just plain silly.

Brain 12-19-2005 11:04 PM

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a guy with an IQ of 156

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Hopefully he's not cooking.

Skip Brutale 12-19-2005 11:07 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
If I had the money I would pay it to have lunch with Fiona Apple.

astarck 12-19-2005 11:09 PM

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Step 1: Bet my friends I wouldn't be able to eat lunch with XXXXX.
Step 2: Make sure amount from step 1 is >= 16,000.
Step 2 note: Amount can be lower than 16,000 if deemed lunch with XXXXX is worth a lesser amount than 16,000 but greater than 0.
Step 3: Pay 16,000 and enjoy a great lunch with XXXXX.
Step 4: Collect 16,000+ from friends.

Enjoy!

ClaytonN 12-19-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
This question is loaded because 16k is just a figure of money, it can be worth different things to different people, especially when you consider how much some people have compared to others.

LearnedfromTV 12-19-2005 11:11 PM

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All I'm saying is that somewhere in between Julian Robertson and "yo lets talk about stocks and [censored]" there are individual investors with enough money and knowledge to get something out of a conversation. I couldn't, but that doesn't mean someone couldn't.

I still vote for Joe D. tho.

KingDan 12-19-2005 11:11 PM

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If these people were forced to answer your questions honestly this would be a lot better.

As is, hell no.

college kid 12-19-2005 11:55 PM

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NH

Riverman 12-20-2005 12:19 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
I would pay it for Bill Clinton or Jack Welch

Maulik 12-20-2005 12:39 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Any of the Beatles, President Kennedy, Warren Buffett, Adrianna Lima.

Klepton 12-20-2005 12:53 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
J.J. Abrams, then i'd take him hostage and make him tell me the end of LOST.

J.A.Sucker 12-20-2005 12:57 AM

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El Diablo,

Please don't underestimate the power or potential of Crunk!!! Energy drink. You obviously haven't seen the website, which is even more persuasive than those dudes on the radio telling you to buy lots of gold.

http://www.crunkenergydrink.com

I don't want you to miss the boat.

Best,

Sucker

12-20-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Sucker,

El Diablo is so opposed to this thread because he is thinking about how much Party Blackjack he could play with 16k. Didn't you hear? He went busto recently. Doo dooo deeee doooo Party Blackjack!

Perrier

J.A.Sucker 12-20-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Perrier,

I'm putting El D back in the game. I have 0.98 on my party account. He'll be livin' the high life in no time!

I've known about the Crunk!!! for a long time, and only now do I feel kind enough to share it with all of you.

Caringly,

Sucker

Maulik 12-20-2005 01:42 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Sucker,

Min BJ bet is $1.

good luck.

FoxwoodsFiend 12-20-2005 01:49 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Bill Clinton. Everybody I know who's met him says he's the most engaging and brilliant person they've ever met.

Ulysses 12-20-2005 03:55 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Sucker,

I have 80 cents in my Party acct. We're back in business, baby!

timprov 12-20-2005 04:13 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
I can think of several people off the top of my head, but not anyone people would know. If I had the money, I'd pay that to have a chance at convincing some of my favorite restaurateurs to reopen/relocate.

Fortunately, I can dine with most of the authors I really like just by promising to feed them well.

renodoc 12-20-2005 05:21 AM

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I would pay 16k to meet Osama Bin Laden for lunch, but the only thing he'd be eating is lead.

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This was my easy answer. Definately +EV given the price on his head is $25M.

12-20-2005 05:48 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Sucker,

Nice work acquiring the #1 rated available busto blackjack horse. I wish I had gotten a piece of that action.

Diablo,

Must be nice to be so close to the top of the ladder.

1. Acquire Sucker
2. Party Blackjack
3. Profit

Jealously,

Perrier

ohnonotthat 12-20-2005 05:56 AM

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Fortunately, I can dine with most of the authors I really like just by promising to feed them well.

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Nh - somewhat sad but in many cases true.

adsman 12-20-2005 05:56 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
All these people saying Warren Buffett. What do they know? They got the answer half right though. Obviously the person to have this lunch with is Jimmy Buffett.

ohnonotthat 12-20-2005 06:38 AM

Silly me - I actually
 
had high hopes for this thread.

I missed the TV report that began all this but I think it's safe to say that the OP was asking whether there was anyone so INTERESTING you'd pay 16k for an hour of his/her time. Correct me if I'm wrong here but I don't think this was intended to become a "who could I PROFIT ($$$) from enough in an hour to make a 16k expenditure +EV".

Assuming my lunch companion were to be 99.9% forthcoming in his/her responses (assuming my questions were appropriate) I would - in no particular order - cough up the fee for the following . . .



Peter Kramer (Author of Listening to Prozac + at least one other book)

My fiance's grandmother (You would too if you knew her)

Doyle Brunson (This adheres to the rules since IMHO he has little to offer these days re. strategy)

The Dalai Lama (I only inserted this name in the middle of the list so as not to have it sound as if I were [obnoxiously] saying, "do any of you imbeciles ever have a thought that is deeper than a puddle" ?)

Tony Blair (brilliant man whether you agree with his politics or think him a freak in this arena)

Bill OR Hillary Clinton (in the case of the latter it would be worth the fee just to see what it's like for a nose to grow right before my eyes - that said, both are obscenely brilliant, inciteful individuals)

David S. (noted poker author though it's unlikely the conversation would ever touch on poker)

- Killed me to add that one, I REALLY dislike being viewed as a suck-up.

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I suddenly realize there are far too many to name; if you'll all excuse me I need to run out and buy some lottery tickets. At 16k/per I'll never earn enough money to dine with all those whom I'd like to spend an hour with.





Note that there are several people on this list with whom I can dine anytime I wish (most will even grab the check). I chose to answer the question in terms of whose company/insight is WORTH 16k for an hour's worth - even if I can (and do) get said company for free whenever I want it.

dblgutshot 12-20-2005 07:04 AM

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I would pay 16k to meet Osama Bin Laden for lunch, but the only thing he'd be eating is lead.

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This was my choice as well, but instead of lead it was sandwiches.

Sephus 12-20-2005 07:09 AM

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I would pay 16k to meet Osama Bin Laden for lunch, but the only thing he'd be eating is lead.

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This was my choice as well, but instead of lead it was sandwiches.

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[censored] you hoser.

dblgutshot 12-20-2005 07:15 AM

Re: Is there anyone living you would pay $16k to eat lunch with?
 
Sorry should have said lead sandwiches.

Gunny Highway 12-20-2005 09:16 AM

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Sorry to come up with the right answer and ruin your thread.

Warren Buffett

Lunch with him would be worth $16k to practically everyone on this board (assuming you would be smart enough to listen to him)...easily.

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They auction off lunch with him for charity every year, and it goes for a a bit more than $16k. $250k if I remember right.

Gunny Highway 12-20-2005 09:26 AM

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You vastly overestimate how much you're going to take away from a lunch w/ Buffett.

You will get far more out of reading and studying his writings/actions than having lunch with him.

It's not like you're going to have lunch and he'll be like "well, gonores, here's my tip.

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You might be underestimating what you can learn from him in an hour or two, El D. Also, i think a stock tip is part of the lunch thing. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Atropos 12-20-2005 09:43 AM

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El Diablo


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