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Read my post again, folks. Obi Wan killed Darth Maul, who'd previously killed Qui-Gon Jinn, a very accomplished Jedi. He then kills General Grievous, who'd killed multiple Jedis in the past. Finally, he goes toe to toe with Anakin, at a point when Anakin had already killed tons of Younglings as well as Mace Vindu. In this fight Obi-Wan pretty much dominates Anakin. Based on all this I say Obi-Wan.

Except Vader owned him on the first Death Star.

And Anakin boned Padme.

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Anakin Skywalker (pre-lava burn) had the most raw power/potential out of any Jedi/Sith. As Qui-Gonn Jinn noticed when he met him as a young boy on Tatooine, his midi-clorian readings were higher than any Jedi's, even Yoda. Anakin was born of the Force and was thus able to mold it to his will.

Sidious noticed this early on, and followed Anakin's career, slowly corrupting him towards the Dark Side. Anakin had always been impatient, and upon realizing the full powers of the Sith, began to embrace its teachings. Anakin took out Mace Windu, an equal to Yoda in terms of lightsaber technique (see the Episode III novelization), owned Dooku (who fought Yoda to a standstill and dispatched Obi-Wan easily), and only lost to Obi-Wan because he was still getting used to his new Dark Side abilities (and Kenobi could anticipate his apprentice's moves; they had trained for years with each other). Sidious says to Yoda that "Darth Vader will be more powerful than either of us," and he certainly means it.

Plus, he took out an entire temple full of Jedi younglings.

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If it could be done, I believe Anakin would crush Vader. He was money...

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what do you mean if?! it is done, at the end of ROTJ...Anakin defeats Vader, and kills Sidious.

Re: Why darth vador?
 

Luke. It's not the battles that count, it's the war. Luke won the war. You're all poker players. Luke risked his life on a read, and his read was correct.

Also the Emperor said Luke's faith in his friends was a weakness, but again Luke was right.

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Except Vader owned him on the first Death Star.

And Anakin boned Padme.

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Well, not really. Obi-Wan clearly lowers his guard, letting Vader strike him down.

Swede

Re: Which Star Wars Character was the best?
 

Being as your post is misleading...

best character, Boba Fett , He sides with no one , hes in it for the cash, his dad gets murdered by the Jedi so he's got all sortsa "dark side" anger . If you paid him more he'd kill the emperor for you too, throwing in Vader no Charge...
Not to mention every storm trooper is his "brother"

As for Best "Jedi" its Luke, as his overall force is enough to swing his father back to kill the emporer and take down the entire dark side, So Luke pwns the entire dark side. (No matter how he gets it done)

Warrior wise, as in a fighter, its a close between Obi and Vader/Anikin that he (obi)smaked him around as a Kid he should win, but he runs like a bitch in the end so its subjective now

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What about Darth Maul? Poor fellow got double-teamed. And his death was ridiculous. The guy has lightning-quick reflexes, then just stands there for five seconds as Obi-Wan flies over him and cuts the bastard in half.

The idea of Luke Skywalker defeating Darth Maul in a lightsaber battle is hilariious.

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Luke couldnt even beat his sister in a battle....

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see this is where you all fail the true star wars tests, Luke is suppose to be the ultimate Jedi, Well Anikin is, the one who brings Balance etc. Thus his love child is as good or better, unless "force" genes are resive in nature. but alas thats another debate.

Anyway He may look like a puss but he has to beat the man whos has wooped on all the above named Jedi's in some for or another and is also his dad "the most powerful Jedi ever"

This is stricly Jedi were talking, he only wins cause he takes the side of good vs evil , which in full force is always suppose to win (with in the context of the movies)

Thank you i Fufilled my geek quota for the week i think

The emperror was a puppeter who shot lighting out his ass big deal

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Speaking of the bringing balance to the force prophecy...why didn't they just kill the kid when they found him? He's supposed to bring balance to the force. We currently have dozens of Jedis and one or two Siths. Let's see, what would bring balance to this situation? Hmmmm.... oh [censored] it, who knows, let's just train the kid and make him really powerful.

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the question was which character is the best. Anakin has to be considered since he nailed natalie portman, but in the end it can only be Yoda.

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the question was which character is the best. Anakin has to be considered since he nailed natalie portman, but in the end it can only be Yoda.

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You are ASSUMING none of the others nailed Padme'. I believe it is common knowledge that Mace Windu gave her the "O" face.

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I'm sure this has been said a dozen times already, but Han Solo. Without him the first movies would hardly be watchable for people older than 10 (I'm not sure the second three are watchable by people older than 7). (Your text and title are all out of whack, so I am answer the question your title asks.)

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I'm guessing that if you were to restrict the poll to voters 25 and over, Vader would win in a walk.

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Speaking of the bringing balance to the force prophecy...why didn't they just kill the kid when they found him? He's supposed to bring balance to the force. We currently have dozens of Jedis and one or two Siths. Let's see, what would bring balance to this situation? Hmmmm.... oh [censored] it, who knows, let's just train the kid and make him really powerful.

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This is the common misconception of the Force, that the Force is a duality - possessing both light and dark sides. This stems from Western civilization's philosophy. Lucas, however, drew a lot from Eastern civilization when he created the Force. The Force is one, possessing neither light nor dark. The "dark side", which the Sith utilize, is like a cancer to the Force that acts on it from the outside. Their use of the Force, through hate, anger, and fear is not natural and quite harmful. The Sith have to be destroyed to restore balance to the Force.

To keep this on topic, I voted for Sidious when he's the Emperor in RotJ. He was just badass and had such great line delievery.

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How could this ever be considered a star wars poll without adding Billy Dee, I mean Lando Calrisian to the poll.

By far one of the most complex characters, sells out Han, then decides to bail and go back to save Luke, goes undercover in Jaba's crew, then almost gets eaten by that hole in the desert, then he single handedly DESTROYS the [censored] DEATH STAR.

This thread sucks.

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Where is the comment "How is vader not winning", so i can quote it. I really don't think this is even close.

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Where is the comment "How is vader not winning", so i can quote it. I really don't think this is even close.

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Both Mace Windu and Obi Wan could handle Vader. Windu had Sidious beaten and was going for the kill when Anakin turned to the Dark Side. Even Voda fought Sidious to a draw.

Vader never defeated Obi Wan in any battle. Obi Wan became one with the Force to deny Vader a chance to kill him. Of course, at the time he was what, a 50 year man vs a 38 year Vader?

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Where is the comment "How is vader not winning", so i can quote it. I really don't think this is even close.

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Both Mace Windu and Obi Wan could handle Vader. Windu had Sidious beaten and was going for the kill when Anakin turned to the Dark Side. Even Voda fought Sidious to a draw.

Vader never defeated Obi Wan in any battle. Obi Wan became one with the Force to deny Vader a chance to kill him. Of course, at the time he was what, a 50 year man vs a 38 year Vader?

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Black suit > all. Most of those chickens you listed don't even use force lightning or crush windpipes!

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Where is the comment "How is vader not winning", so i can quote it. I really don't think this is even close.

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Both Mace Windu and Obi Wan could handle Vader. Windu had Sidious beaten and was going for the kill when Anakin turned to the Dark Side. Even Voda fought Sidious to a draw.

Vader never defeated Obi Wan in any battle. Obi Wan became one with the Force to deny Vader a chance to kill him. Of course, at the time he was what, a 50 year man vs a 38 year Vader?

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Black suit > all. Most of those chickens you listed don't even use force lightning or crush windpipes!

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Windu handled the Force Lightning and gave Sidious a new face with something more interesting than the Force choke. That and the purple light saber and badassmuthaf....... wallet trump all.

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Having a "Which Star Wars Character was the best?" poll and leaving out Han Solo is a f-ing travesty.

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the question was which character is the best. Anakin has to be considered since he nailed natalie portman, but in the end it can only be Yoda.

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You are ASSUMING none of the others nailed Padme'. I believe it is common knowledge that Mace Windu gave her the "O" face.

LLL

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[yoda]Mmmmm, over I will bend you. Bang you I will.[/yoda]

It's walking in on this that sent Anakin to the dark side...er, I mean, the outside-the-force-Eastern-philosophy-not-really-the-dark-side-we-just-call-it-that thing. But that scene got cut to avoid an R rating.

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How did Mace Windu pwn him in about 90 seconds then?

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I f'd up the name. I meant to say is the best warrior. Han solo is a great character but even Princess Lea could take him out. What I wonder is if Vader was so strong why he didnt wack Lord Sidious and rule the whole Galaxy. They should really make a video game where you can fight a la mortal combat with all star wars characters. That would be interesting....

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I f'd up the name. I meant to say is the best warrior. Han solo is a great character but even Princess Lea could take him out. What I wonder is if Vader was so strong why he didnt wack Lord Sidious and rule the whole Galaxy. They should really make a video game where you can fight a la mortal combat with all star wars characters. That would be interesting....

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Lucas said Anakin/Vader started out with the potential to be twice as strong as the Emperor but ended up about 80% of him and could not use force lightning due to his injuries.

Y'all forgot Boba Fett.

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Voting for Wedge Antilles. He's the only man, in the entire universe, to survive TWO Death Star Runs.

And he doesn't rely on the Force, either. Just courage and balls of steel.

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They did, the Episode 3 video games has an unlockable dueling mode. Anakin owns that mode.

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Voting for Wedge Antilles. He's the only man, in the entire universe, to survive TWO Death Star Runs.

And he doesn't rely on the Force, either. Just courage and balls of steel.

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Ooooooh...good one.

"Look at the size of that thing!"

ScottieK

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How did Mace Windu pwn him in about 90 seconds then?

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According to Lucas, it is open to interpretation as to whether Mace pwn3d Palps or if the Sith Lord merely allowed Windu temporary advantage as he forsaw his opportunity to close the deal with Anakin.

The book, however, does indeed give the victory to Mace. Apparently, he developed his own brand of The Force which is close to a Dark Side style. By allowing the Dark Side to flow through him he was able to turn Sidious' power back on him.

The ROTS novel is well done. The author takes quite a few liberties and provides some snappy lines and insight that the movie sadly lacked. I am sorry to report that the ROTS follow up novel "Dark Lord- The Rise of Darth Vader" is pretty much meh.

Botttom line- Palpatine worked his way up in the senate, amassed the biggest military force in the history of the universe, destroyed the Jedi and became Emperor of the galaxy. That's what pwning is all about.

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I've only just realized how much damage the new films did to the Vader mystique. Before the second trilogy, Vader's winning this poll in a landslide, but now that he's been exposed, we're not in awe of him any more. He's mortal now.

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Yoda too.

[yoda]Mmmmm, over I will bend you. Bang you I will.[/yoda]

It's walking in on this that sent Anakin to the dark side...er, I mean, the outside-the-force-Eastern-philosophy-not-really-the-dark-side-we-just-call-it-that thing. But that scene got cut to avoid an R rating.

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Thats not the only thing he banged...

-Gryph