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no, A-4 would not be the nut low in Hold em. They aren't playing O/8.

Nut low means worst possible hand. That is precisely what he holds on the river.


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Re: what would you do?
 

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I announce 'nut low'

Not to be a nit, but not only is your statement stupid (it's not high/low) but even if it were, you don't have the nut low. The nut low would be A4.

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Actually, "I play the board." would probably be better.

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I announce 'nut low'

Not to be a nit, but not only is your statement stupid (it's not high/low) but even if it were, you don't have the nut low. The nut low would be A4.

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Actually, "I play the board." would probably be better.

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cmon guys... if the board is 2 3 7 T K and you have 45 that is the nut low... A 4 would be Ace high... and technically you aren't playing the board, but you can't be worse than the board.

if that makes sense lol

oh and if I'm dumb enough to muck my cards, I don't expect to get the pot, so i can't see myself giving the pot away if I were on the winning side.

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I announce 'nut low'

Not to be a nit, but not only is your statement stupid (it's not high/low) but even if it were, you don't have the nut low. The nut low would be A4.

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Actually, "I play the board." would probably be better.

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cmon guys... if the board is 2 3 7 T K and you have 45 that is the nut low... A 4 would be Ace high... and technically you aren't playing the board, but you can't be worse than the board.

if that makes sense lol

oh and if I'm dumb enough to muck my cards, I don't expect to get the pot, so i can't see myself giving the pot away if I were on the winning side.

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I need to clarify--I was talking about OP's hand.

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I announce 'nut low'

Not to be a nit, but not only is your statement stupid (it's not high/low) but even if it were, you don't have the nut low. The nut low would be A4.

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Actually, "I play the board." would probably be better.

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cmon guys... if the board is 2 3 7 T K and you have 45 that is the nut low... A 4 would be Ace high... and technically you aren't playing the board, but you can't be worse than the board.

if that makes sense lol

oh and if I'm dumb enough to muck my cards, I don't expect to get the pot, so i can't see myself giving the pot away if I were on the winning side.

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I need to clarify--I was talking about OP's hand.

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No difference -- he is not playing the board -- assuming the board is 237TK, he is playing 457TK. If the board was something like 678TK, he would be playing the board.

And the first guy -- complaining about saying "nut low" -- he is a nit.

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If the board is 678TK, he's got a straight and we're not having this conversation (with the OP's 45...). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If the board is 678TK, he's got a straight and we're not having this conversation (with the OP's 45...). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Ooops meant 679TK

Re: what would you do?
 

By the rules of poker, OP is entitled to the whole pot. By the rules of human decency and common sense, opponent should at least get a chop. Believe it or not, the rules of the latter do (or should) hold at the poker table.

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By the rules of poker, OP is entitled to the whole pot. By the rules of human decency and common sense, opponent should at least get a chop. Believe it or not, the rules of the latter do (or should) hold at the poker table.

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suppose OP said " i have the 3rd nut low" instead and the other guy folded, and the same events ensued, do you still give it to the idiot who folded his hand after seeing the OP's hand face up on the table?

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By the rules of poker, OP is entitled to the whole pot. By the rules of human decency and common sense, opponent should at least get a chop. Believe it or not, the rules of the latter do (or should) hold at the poker table.

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suppose OP said " i have the 3rd nut low" instead and the other guy folded, and the same events ensued, do you still give it to the idiot who folded his hand after seeing the OP's hand face up on the table?

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Yes, that changes nothing. The point is that the OP could not conceivably have had the best hand, and accidentally tricked his opponent into mucking.

You don't go into a hand hoping to win it when your joke at the end confuses your opponent and makes him muck the best hand at showdown. Opponent was an idiot and OP did nothing wrong, but keeping the whole pot in this instance would strike me as a sort of retroactive angle shoot.

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Send the man the pot. If I was called to rule on this I would award the pot to the other player. I am in the process of moving into my new house so I won't give a long explanation here, but in general if you call your hand and can't produce at least that hand you lose if the otehr player mucks. That rule doesn't apply directly here but since it is obvious he misunderstood what you said and there was no hand you could beat he gets the pot.