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12-10-2005 02:48 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
technically you are allowed your inital image and then one more change. However if you email them they may let you change it again. A lot of the big names change it over and over again and stars lets them because they contribute so much to the site.
-Gardock

12-10-2005 02:53 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
After seeing some people wanting a 2-7 and A-5 games. I think a HORSE tourney once a week would get a good amount of intrest. It would probably do best in a deep stack tourney where the game changed every 1/2 hour with the limits.

I'm not sure of the normal stucture for one of these tourneys but would like to play in one and have never found a place that offered one.

Exitonly 12-10-2005 02:57 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
gamesgrid has horse tournaments. oh. And Full Tilt

but it'd be sweeeet if Stars did too.

Matador225 12-10-2005 03:09 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Can't believe no one has mentioned sharks with laser beams yet.

12-10-2005 03:11 AM

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ahh okay that makes sense since i've changed it once now. thanks for the clarification.

Patrick Duffy 12-10-2005 03:14 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
How about a little red light that comes on letting me know my opponent will catch a runner-runner flush if i go all in? No? Ah well...

ansky451 12-10-2005 07:48 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Lee Jones has discussed draw games before, at the moment with their software its impossible he said.


As for everything else, I'd like a 150/300 level too, and my big thing would be satellites into the 150's to make them big and fishy.

Also, 180 person SNGs w/ higher buy ins, (50s-150s).

Sam T. 12-10-2005 10:08 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
- 10% payouts for all tournaments if it's feasible.

- Feeder Satellites to the bigger daily tourneys (not only the sunday $215, but like the daily 150's or 100's would be cool)

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Yah, UB has the TEC tournies. I think they're mostly SnGs but I like the idea of a $10-15 sat for $W

Melchiades 12-10-2005 10:16 AM

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$20 STT sat for the 150. 2 table $10 sat for the 150. $10-$20 MTT sat to the 150. Lots of possibilities.

La Brujita 12-10-2005 10:41 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Adding and repeating as others:

1. sats to nightly 162s

2. more big limit he tournaments

3. better blind structure (I play 90% of multis at Party partly because of blind structure)

4. 180 person sit and gos at higher buyins

5. more 100k freerolls like party does

ansky451 12-10-2005 11:04 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Ehhhhh, Party isn't really better anymore. Stars has 800/1600 now, and there are quite a few more levels late on.

At final tables on party the avg M is way lower than stars, and still can be something of a push-fest even shorthanded and heads up.

12-10-2005 11:11 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Oh yeah. Also, uncap the blinds.

ansky451 12-10-2005 11:12 AM

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Oh yeah. Also, uncap the blinds.

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I disagree.

MrBrightside 12-10-2005 11:22 AM

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well, my #1 is move to a dead button. I posted a poll about it results were not overwhelming, but most wanted it.

Almost as big a deal to me, however, would be a flatter payout structure. I think the 20% is an attempt, but a poor one. I don't care about getting a few dollars when finishing 200th in a 1000-person tourney. I do think that 65% of the prize pool going to the final 9 is ridiculous. I guess the 20% structure is flatter as well, with 45% of the pool to the ft. but I would ditch the 20% and just flatten the money a little among the 10%.

La Brujita 12-10-2005 11:22 AM

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Agree at final table but if you play the 215s side by side the money is much deeper at party as you progress pretty deep into the tournament, by a significant factor.

Unfortunately Party then becomes crap at end.

mshalen 12-10-2005 11:44 AM

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fantastic idea

McMelchior 12-10-2005 11:58 AM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Mr. Jones, regarding the 20% pay out structure please DON'T LISTEN to the posters above.

20% pay out is one of the best initiatives lately to keep tournament poker profitable for us, that belongs to the vast majority of mediocre players.

20% outs is a great incentive to keep everybody playing - a chance for even the most inexperienced (poor) players to cash just once in a while and keep it interesting for them to continue buying in.

20% tournaments are a great initiative to keep the tournament poker expanding with a rate high enough to make it profitable for more than the top 5% - 10% of the players.

Who ever don't like them still have a ton of 10% tournaments to buy in to.

LET'S KEEP THOSE 20% PAY OUT TOURNAMENTS - PLEASE

Best,

McMelchior (Johan)

ansky451 12-10-2005 12:42 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
[ QUOTE ]
Almost as big a deal to me, however, would be a flatter payout structure. I think the 20% is an attempt, but a poor one. I don't care about getting a few dollars when finishing 200th in a 1000-person tourney. I do think that 65% of the prize pool going to the final 9 is ridiculous. I guess the 20% structure is flatter as well, with 45% of the pool to the ft. but I would ditch the 20% and just flatten the money a little among the 10%.


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I disagree.

I like the fact that 15th place is a meaninglessly small prize.

ansky451 12-10-2005 12:44 PM

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Agree at final table but if you play the 215s side by side the money is much deeper at party as you progress pretty deep into the tournament, by a significant factor.

Unfortunately Party then becomes crap at end.

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Yes I've noticed this as well about the higher buy ins. But the regular 100s on both sites are just better on stars.

The supers however have 20 minute levels, which is way better than the stars 150s.

I wish UB had more players + not such a horrid interface (obviously a matter of opinion). Their structure for the 100s is ridiculously good. Actually ridiculous.

MrBrightside 12-10-2005 12:48 PM

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I just don't get this... I play a 2000 person, $10 tourney.. for 10th place, I would get $100. (10-18th get .50%). For 6ht place, I would get $480. So I beat out 1990 people, I get 10x my buy in, but If I beat out 1994 people, I get 48x my buy in?

Incidentally, it's absurd that 10th -18th in a tourney of 2000 people get the same amount (plus, it makes for more hand for hand play, which is frustrating).

Melchiades 12-10-2005 12:54 PM

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(plus, it makes for more hand for hand play, which is frustrating).

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Please explain.

12-10-2005 12:56 PM

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(plus, it makes for less hand for hand play, which is good).

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FYP

MrBrightside 12-10-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
If you have blocks of prize money the same. (i.e.e, 10th 18th the same), then you have a block of hand to hand play before it. If it was graduated, as I think it should be, you wouldn't have hand to hand. The problem is, you'd probably have stallers then. I don't really like hand to hand.

cocofrite 12-10-2005 01:33 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Rakeback

bobman0330 12-10-2005 05:24 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
Fix turbo satellites. The stalling at the bubble is positively disgusting. If I were PS, I'd be ashamed that some of my games were playing in a way that's borderline unfair.

AtlBrvs4Life 12-10-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
More large($100-$500) buy-in deep stack tournaments. I can't seem to bring myself to join one of these $33 deep stacks and play for 12 hours.

TomHimself 12-10-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
wats this 500$ 100k added? interesting

ansky451 12-10-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
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If you have blocks of prize money the same. (i.e.e, 10th 18th the same), then you have a block of hand to hand play before it. If it was graduated, as I think it should be, you wouldn't have hand to hand. The problem is, you'd probably have stallers then. I don't really like hand to hand.

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hand for hand when its 3 tables or 2 tables really really isn't that bad.

and there would be an absurd amount of stallers if it was constantly graduated.

ansky451 12-10-2005 07:39 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
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I just don't get this... I play a 2000 person, $10 tourney.. for 10th place, I would get $100. (10-18th get .50%). For 6ht place, I would get $480. So I beat out 1990 people, I get 10x my buy in, but If I beat out 1994 people, I get 48x my buy in

Incidentally, it's absurd that 10th -18th in a tourney of 2000 people get the same amount (plus, it makes for more hand for hand play, which is frustrating).

[/ QUOTE ]

Welcome to tournament poker. Everywhere.

MrBrightside 12-10-2005 08:44 PM

Re: Dear Lee Jones; Volume II
 
I agree about the absurd stallers. It's probably a necessary evil. But I don't see why hand for hand and block payments for 10-18th go together. You could do hand for hand and still have graduated payments there.


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