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El Paso / Las Cruces. The only way I can tell the difference is that El Paso is closer to Juarez.

Do these qualify as cities?

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I'd have to say Buffalo. Horrible winters, poverty, corruption, crooked cops, terrible city government, you name it. It's like the whole place was thrust into a permanent state of depression after Super Bowl XXV.

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To a certain extent, you have also described every city in NY along I-90, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Albany, Schanectady.

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I opened this thread in order to contribute the lovely city of Rochester.

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I moved out to Rochester a year ago. It's far from great, but it ain't all that bad. There are a couple of rough neighborhoods, but they don't extend all that far. Most of the places I go are fairly safe to walk around at night. The winters haven't been half as bad as Buffalo. Buffalo has two lakes dumping snow on them. Rochester only has one.

I'd like to nominate Pittsburgh, PA. I was there two weekends ago. Every place I went looked like a crime infested dump. On top of that, the roads in that place are a civil engineering nightmare. Ugh. You can't even do simple things like get off the freeway and get right back on. You end up horribly lost going in the wrong direction over some bridge you don't want to be on. Add to that that some of their "on ramps" are nothing more than a stop sign with a right turn that puts you immediately into 60 MPH traffic. Yuck.

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Detroit for sure.

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Put me down too for Detroit. I had a 3 week training course, and the area was so bad that our company housed all new employees in a hotel about 40 minutes away from the city. Explanation was that previous groups either got into trouble (i.e. victims of crime) or just complained in general about their surroundings.

Commuting daily on the freeway was horribly depressing (8 mile road is essentially the 8 mile road in the movie). The only thing more depressing - visiting one of their casinos at night.. Picture being in a Vegas casino, but replace the happy drunks with angry drunks and the carefree Vegas gamblers with depressed gamblers risking their paychecks. That's all I remember about Detroit.

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Peoria, IL

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Any city in the south.

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Will you people stop with the Springfield, Waltham, Schenectady, Utica stuff....these places aren't "cities."

It's as if I were to list Roslyn or Great Neck or something.

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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

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Well, whatever you wanna call it, Waltham's a hellhole.

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Atlanta. It destroyed its heritage.

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1. Kansas City, MO
2. Los Angeles, CA
3. Louisville, KY

Caveats: I live in LA and love to hate it. But I do hate it. Also, Louisville is good for one week out of the year. Kansas City just blows.

And I agree, stop posting little podunk places like cities in western MA and upstate New York or the middle of the desert. They don't count.

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Any city in the south.

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You stay on your side of the Mason-Dixon, I'll stay on mine, and I won't ever complain.

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You stay on your side of the Mason-Dixon, I'll stay on mine, and I won't ever complain.

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I kinda like Nashville actually. It gets an exemption.

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springfield, ma is definitely a "city" city.. waltham, no.

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what's wrong with it? i fail to see how it's any different than any other suburb surrounding it. i have never lived there or anything, so i don't know.. let's hear it

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Another vote for Buffalo, although it's so depressing I kind of like it.

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All of them?

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I've spent some time in Waltham. While it wouldn't be my first choice (or 50th) of a place to live, singling a city that close to Worcester out is absurd. Worcester sucks donkey dick, no other place in MA is close in terms of crappiness IMO. Waltham is dingy, but it's not as bad as Worcester. There are other sucky places of similar size that are worse, like Fall River, for instance.

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I mean some sort of rail system. Buses suck, because they slow traffic even more. I couldn't imagine living in a big city without some sort of rail/subway. These systems should help city growth and culture as well, encouraging a better nightlife, attractions staying open later, an urban lifestyle, etc.

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And I agree, stop posting little podunk places like cities in western MA and upstate New York or the middle of the desert. They don't count.

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Sorry to be a nit but, but

Springfield, MA pop. 152,157
Rochester, NY pop. 215,093
Hartford, CT pop. 124,387
Worcester pop. 175,706

Like it or not, these are technically cities.

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I went to Louisville for a wedding this summer and found it to be a beautiful, charming city. My only beef is with the roads and traffic patterns in the older parts of town, which are a god-damned nightmare; I left an hour earlier than I normally would and still barely managed to sprint into the chapel on time. WTF is it with the old French towns and their labyrinth of one-way streets?

Anyway, good town. Too bad it will be forever associated in my memory with being lightly bummed out.

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I'm surprised Springfield and Worcester are that close. Rochester counts for sure, I was referring to Utica.

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My gf lived outside of Philly and we went there several times. I rather liked it, but the people for the most part are incredibly obnoxious.

I've never spent any significant time there but I hear Worcester, MA is a nice place...

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I live near worcester and it isn't that bad. not much to do there, and its a little dangerous, but its no Lowell. That's one city to stay away from

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What's wrong with Kansas City? Great barbecue at least.

Although I will say the worst ballpark I've ever been to is Kauffman Stadium, home of the Royals. Besides the fountains, the place was filthy and leaky, and they ran out of hot dogs before the third inning. How the hell does that happen? And all they had to drink was bad beer. Worst part was, it took me almost half an hour to get anything else.

If you really want middle of the desert, try Espanola, NM.

I forgot to mention Lubbock, TX.

For a big city I can't stand, how about Salt Lake City. Yes.

ScottieK

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Utica for sure shouldnt count as a city. Neither should Schenectady, which is a shame cause they could definately make multiple "Worst of" lists...

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Boston. Hate the people, hate the accent, hate the weather, hate how they all think they're in a world-class city when they're really just in a quaint little burg.

Speaking of burgs...

Pittsburgh. Bleh

Cleveland. Double bleh.

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Rocky Mount, NC. No need for explanation for anyone who has been there.

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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city. Its got a lot of sprawl, and not much in the way of culture. I'm partial because a very good friend lives there, and the food is good, but I wouldn't argue with those that think its a pretty bad city.

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Grand Forks, North Dakota

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San Antonio, Texas full of a bunch of Mexican-American's who claim to and try to be White (quoted from a Mexican buddy of mine). I agree. Also, there isn't much culture there. It's just a "large conglomeration of people", not a "city". Drop by to see the Alamo and the Riverwalk, and get the F out. The people are vere rude, too. Especially the drivers along I-10. Been there twice, don't ever want to go back. Not missing a damn thing.

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maybe you should spend some time in a city before you make snap judgments about it. how long were your two trips? san antonio is a pretty decent city. dont know why you say SA is just a "large conglomerate of people." there's plenty of culture.

and the hispanics seem pretty tex-mex to me. where are you from?

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I live in Houston. I spend a few days in San Antonio with the family about 8 years ago and didn't really care for it. Also, I was in the area when I went Toobin' down the Guadalupe in New Braunfels, TX and stopped by SA afterwards and again, ran into some really rude people, mostly on the highways. This says a lot seeing as I spend over 1 hour each day on the roads of Houston.

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New York, and it's not close.

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There is no city in the world with nearly as much consistent, quality powder within an hour of an international airport. SLC sucks I will give you that, but the skiing alone should keep it off the list.

and someone from albuquerque probably shouldn't be posting in this thread :-P

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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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New Haven has the best pizza in the U.S. and must be moved up the list because of this fact.

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OK Ive heard this before, and Ive been to New Haven many times, and I have never had a memorable pizza there. Perhaps I havent been to the right pizza joints. Where should I go next time Im there?

I did see a Pizza guy get knocked off his bike then robbed there, so maybe your theory has some merit.

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go to modern, sally's or pepe's, any of the 3 will get you hooked on new haven pizza

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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.

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New York, and it's not close.

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have you been to LA?

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No, this is only out of the cities I've been to.

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NY&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;LA

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KC is a pretty crime-ridden, run-down city.

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Which of your cities aren't?

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Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.


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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

The cheesesteaks are just as good in the suburbs.


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F you.

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Philadelphia.

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Salt Lake city, Utah.

(besides the skiing)

its a morman cult city where everything closes at 1:00 on weekends. the whole town is obsessively clean like a hospital.

the streets are not named but numbered (street2300)

its a pure grid.

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New York, and it's not close.

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Lived in both (Manhattan 4 years, LA about 3 years now). I'd have to agree. Though I would take off some of the "&gt;" due to NYC possibly getting blown up by terrorists, unlikely event in LA.

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Philadelphia, PA. One of my college buddies grew up there and I ended up partying there probably 15 times, and spent another couple weeks with his family. The down is dirty as all hell and really smells, the people are lazy, the girls are gross, and the accent they sport became like nails on the chalkboard after about 2 visits.


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Yet more points for Philly.

- dirty, overpriced, yet bankrupt public transportation
- stench in the streets
- 5% wage tax
- corrupt government
- an illiterate mayor
- grossly over-powerful unions
- lazy-ass entitlement work ethic of the people (see previous point)
- the Chinese food in its China town sucks
- inarguably the most obnoxious sports fans in the country (the battery incident was my favorite)

They have one of the best business schools in the country, but 95% of Wharton graduates leave Philly immediately upon graduation. They spend craploads of tax dollars trying to figure out why.

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F you.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about Philly's perpetual, justly-deserved, yet consistently-denied inferiority complex.

Just about every mayor, from Wilson Goode to John Street, has run a goddamned clinic on how to [censored] up a city.