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ChipWrecked 11-05-2005 03:52 AM

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I've had cancer. I've been in jail. Given your assumptions on the jail stretch: Jail. Not close.

Chemo is like sex or psychedelic drugs. You can try to explain it to somebody, but if you haven't done it you just wouldn't understand.

jesusarenque 11-05-2005 03:56 AM

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I've had cancer. I've been in jail. Given your assumptions on the jail stretch: Jail. Not close.

Chemo is like sex or psychedelic drugs. You can try to explain it to somebody, but if you haven't done it you just wouldn't understand.

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I have had cancer. As has my dad. My mom has it right now. I know chemo sucks. I'd still take that over jail.

tonypaladino 11-05-2005 04:22 AM

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I don't understand how people can pick cancer. It is explicitly said that if you pick jail there will be no beatings or rapings. You would choose a year of suffering over a year of sitting in a room reading and watching tv, with a couple of hours of excersize each day. What do you people have brain damage?

InchoateHand 11-05-2005 04:39 AM

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dizong,

you are so wrong.


I am a poet, and I don't realize it.

ChipWrecked 11-05-2005 05:25 AM

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I've had cancer. I've been in jail. Given your assumptions on the jail stretch: Jail. Not close.

Chemo is like sex or psychedelic drugs. You can try to explain it to somebody, but if you haven't done it you just wouldn't understand.

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I have had cancer. As has my dad. My mom has it right now. I know chemo sucks. I'd still take that over jail.

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Best to your mom. Sorry to hear it.

11-05-2005 05:59 AM

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Cancer. Not even close.

Death and pain are nothing compared to a cage.

JihadOnTheRiver 11-05-2005 06:47 AM

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You recover from jail. You do not recover from cancer.

gabbahh 11-05-2005 09:10 AM

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You recover from jail. You do not recover from cancer.

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Even when you are considered fully healed, it can always come back. The fact that you've had cancer will stay with you for the rest of your life... When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.
Also the jails in my country are pretty ok. You get television, you can get all the dope you want. And besides the fact that you are locked up, it can be fun...
One of my friend likes it so much he spends more time inside then outside of the prison.

11-05-2005 12:09 PM

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I don't understand how people can pick cancer. It is explicitly said that if you pick jail there will be no beatings or rapings. You would choose a year of suffering over a year of sitting in a room reading and watching tv, with a couple of hours of excersize each day. What do you people have brain damage?

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That was my sentiment too. Plus you could really get in great shape with nothing to do but workout and eat all day. And the fact that people would be scared of you because you were in jail, getting weed and swag hookups when you are out, etc.

11-05-2005 12:11 PM

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Also the jails in my country are pretty ok. You get television, you can get all the dope you want. And besides the fact that you are locked up, it can be fun...
One of my friend likes it so much he spends more time inside then outside of the prison.

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Wait. Is this guy your friend?


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man 11-05-2005 12:20 PM

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I've never had cancer and I've never been in jail. but I have had a long-term traumatic experience (mild mental health stuff, probably nothing compared to cancer), and it made me a stronger person. does anyone else see the cancer thing as sort of a challenge? not to mention, prison will screw your professional life entirely.

Exitonly 11-05-2005 12:22 PM

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does anyone else see the cancer thing as sort of a challenge?

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i thought this too.

astroglide 11-05-2005 03:46 PM

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jail doesn't seem like a big deal to me if it's not serious security/rape jail and especially if there wouldn't be a felony on record

11-05-2005 03:55 PM

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But would the judge tell me Im a bad person?

totally not worth it.

yeah exit's right, you get the added bonus of the challenge of overcoming an obstacle with cancer, with jail not so much.

astroglide 11-05-2005 03:57 PM

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with jail you could do massive amounts of self-improvement. books, working out, introspection, etc.

banditbdl 11-05-2005 04:00 PM

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I think you under-rate freedom, by a lot.

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You're not really free when you're full-blown cancer sick. Physically, there are a ton of things you simply won't be able to do. Moreover, mentally being that sick and having to go through that kind of pain has a way of exhausting you psychologically.

Drew16 11-08-2005 09:05 PM

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You do know that cancer isn't contagious, don't you?

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I have had cancer. As has my dad. My mom has it right now.

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meep_42 11-08-2005 09:14 PM

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I've never been to jail.

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Duke 11-08-2005 10:08 PM

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You do know that cancer isn't contagious, don't you?

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I have had cancer. As has my dad. My mom has it right now.

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You do know that cancer isn't contagious, don't you?

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~D

Superfluous Man 11-08-2005 10:41 PM

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If there is even the slightest possibility of assrape (and thus AIDS) it's cancer, and it's not even close.

MyTurn2Raise 11-09-2005 04:46 AM

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Jail or Prison? There is a very very big difference.

Ok, I'll admit it. I've been in both. Jail is no sweat. Prisons suck. I've never fully healed. I never will. My life has never been the same and it cannot ever be the same.

One prison I was at was nice (Vienna Correctional Center). Patty-cake. Played chess. Watched TV. Tutored Algebra. Mopped floors. Read books. Did not lift or play basketball (too many Aryans and gangstas).

The other prison was not so nice. (It's the one where fox filmed most of that show Prison Break.) I was general pop and not receiving there before someone who knows a little tries to point that out. 24 hours of constant fear and alertness really messes with the way a mind works. First, my cornhole is still virgin thankfully. But, it took constant watching/manipulating/ deals to maintain that status. Beatings--I took one. Not that big of a deal. The reward of segregrated population (isolation) was nice for a person of my make-up. It was a 23/1 prison. 23 hours a day in an old timey cell like Shawshank. 1 hour a day of yard time. Time out for work, chapel service, and most meals. Yes, they make you work. don't worry though...I was paid $0.15/hour. Got to spend my hard earned pay on little debbie snacks and such. Met some of the worst. I regularly ate meals with a kid who killed his whole family (Mom, dad, and little sisters) with a hammer. One of my cellmates was a drive-by-murderer. The list goes on. Those who weren't severely doped up (Thorazine anyone) did not think in 'normal' patterns.

But that's not the worst of it. The worst is when your Mom comes to visit, or your girlfriend, or your Dad. Friends don't come, because you are no longer a friend when in there and, quite often, not a friend when you get out. Your girlfriend/wife/ladyfriend is a lost cause. Relationships don't survive strain like that.

When you get out, everything is different. I got to slowly adjust due to the anklet. (See the Busterstacks photo). You are very likely to have much, much trouble finding a job. Hell, pizza places were turning me down, despite a stellar work history. I got lucky and some very sympathetic souls at my local bookstore employed me. When I moved back to the University I attended, most of my 'friends' were anything but. I was effectively ostracized by many holier than thou types. My bad for being the one who got caught. Fortunately, some friends remained so and those people will be friends 'til I part from the soil. I finished multiple degrees with high honors from a prestigious program. Guess what? No jobs. Nothing. Nothing respectable at all. (Take a guess as to why I learned poker.) I was arrested in 1999 as a stupid 19-year old. Many moons have passed and still nothing changes; employers view is that I'm a convict. I can vote (funny state). I live a relatively normal life, but, occasionally, the fear comes back. Occasionally, I am a sad drunk. My birthday is always the worst (great timing when they served that warrant). People are always shocked to find out that I am what I am. I don't come off as that 'type' if that means anything.

But, I still doubt if that is worse than cancer.
A relative is battling that right now, and, IMO, it's a much, much worse position.






BTW-I was convicted of drug possession of a schedule I and got the max 3 years. I served considerably less time. Yeah drug war. Very clean record before. Nothing since. Yes, there was a deal for dropped charges of a more severe sort. Warning: watch what you're doing out there because sometimes there are dramatic consequences to actions that don't seem that bad.

AdamL 11-09-2005 05:08 AM

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The "free cancer for 1 year" with cure is way preferable to jail for those of us with families we'd like to be able to see and spend time with every day! (Even if we'd be ugly and sick!)

kevkev60614 11-09-2005 04:17 PM

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MyTurn2Raise,

Your post makes me sad. When is your birthday?


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