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Man oh man, I wish chat wasn't an option for online poker. Time and time again I see some table captain berate a big time donator for a stupid play and all I can do is just sit and watch while I grit my teeth and wish I could kick him square in the nuts.

Then you got the idiots that give out the URL of this site, or talk about this book, that book. For Pete's sake, are you not playing this game to make money?

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Lol. Not everyone plays 2/4 online poker for a living. (Yes there are ppl older than 18 out there) There are still a few ppl that play poker for sport and they like to play against competent players.

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I have absolutely no problem with people telling others about 2+2 or recommending books that will help them. This is good for 2+2 publishing and the authors we like to make money. I think it probably inappropriate to do this at a table, but there may be a situation or two where its cool.

My problem is when players berate other players in chat. It breaks up games, it tightens players who are there for casual fun, etc. It is also terrible manners to boot. I know Malmuth agrees of course based on his essay.

I think one of the biggest problems on Party Poker is the loons who really yell & scream at a player. These loons aren't very good themselves (if a 33% type VPIP is any indication), but rude behavior will drive passive first-timers away from the table AND from the site.

This is one reason I wish GamesGrid could get a few more players. There is a bunch of nice chat there, and rarely does someone lose it.

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2. How the hell does some 35 year old woman know about SSHE???! I hope she isn't think of playing online.

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What do you mean? They sell SSHE at all the bookstores and lots of people know about 2+2....even old people....David and Mason have been publishing for quite some time.

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Man... she was *35*???

That's freakin *old*, dude!

Most 35-year-olds can't even read any more, much less figure out how to get on line.

She probably doesn't even have sex any more.

I hope I never get to be 35.

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As unbelievable as this may sound to some of you, I am a 51-year old woman who owns SSHE.......along with HEFAP and TOP. I've been a good customer of Sklansky, Malmuth and Miller. Started playing this past February, and thanks to them, I have been a winner.

Some "old ladies" can play. And we especially enjoy the young pups at our table who think we can't......

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Tom

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2. How the hell does some 35 year old woman know about SSHE???! I hope she isn't think of playing online.

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What do you mean? They sell SSHE at all the bookstores and lots of people know about 2+2....even old people....David and Mason have been publishing for quite some time.

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Man... she was *35*???

That's freakin *old*, dude!

Most 35-year-olds can't even read any more, much less figure out how to get on line.

She probably doesn't even have sex any more.

I hope I never get to be 35.

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As unbelievable as this may sound to some of you, I am a 51-year old woman who owns SSHE.......along with HEFAP and TOP. I've been a good customer of Sklansky, Malmuth and Miller. Started playing this past February, and thanks to them, I have been a winner.

Some "old ladies" can play. And we especially enjoy the young pups at our table who think we can't......

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I too am a little old lady (ten years older than Malo), and I have read every word of GSIH and SSHE several times over and all the 2+2 magazine articles and many 2+2 threads. And, yes, I can still read (in a number of different languages) and write to a publishable standard. And obviously I know how to get online and spend a great deal of time (and money) there.

And as for sex, it only gets better for women over 35 (and smart young men know that). For women there is really no upper limit. Alas, this is not true for men who struggle in that department as they age (go, little blue pill). You young fellows sitting in your underpants in your parents' basement, 8-tabling and pissing in pickle jars, don't try to teach your grandmas to suck eggs. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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And as for sex, it only gets better for women over 35 (and smart young men know that). For women there is really no upper limit. Alas, this is not true for men who struggle in that department as they age (go, little blue pill). You young fellows sitting in your underpants in your parents' basement, 8-tabling and pissing in pickle jars, don't try to teach your grandmas to suck eggs. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Amen sistah! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Most fish will remain that way in the face of overwhelming evidence. A lack of self-honesty goes hand-in-hand with being a bad poker player. I don't worry about educating the fish too much. There's lots of fish.

If it really bothers you, then just try to find a way to change the subject at the table.

I've always wondered about the double standard. Many here don't want the bad players to know about 2+2, but if one of them makes their way here, then we go out of our way to teach them to play better. It's probably two completely different sets of posters, but it just seems kind of wonky.

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most newbies end up in OOT anyway so chill.

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Could 2+2 just close registration? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Only half joking [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I tend to agree with OP. There couldn't be any good that can come out of linking this site and the books even if 1/100 actually follow up on it and become better players. So why do it?

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I think there is an advantage through knowledge and information but it is essential how this information is being processed. This is just like a libary, everyone can go there and not many actually do. I think it´s a little paranoid to believe that just because some folks tell the fish about 2+2, all fish will disappear. They are not fish because they haven´t hear of 2+2 before.

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this is how i became a 2+2er, it was like a good year or so ago, i was probly break-even-ish at some limit, i had read HPFAP already, i did something with 88 when it was an underpair, dude at the table was like:

dude: "that was the correct play, 2+2er i presume?"
me: "uhh.. what?"
me: "ohh...sklanskys website?"
dude: "yeah, you a 2+2er?"
me: "no, but i read his book"
dude: "which one"
me: "HPFAP"
dude: "well you should check out the site some time"
me: "ok"

and thats where it all started, i might have found it eventually anyway, but still, DONT BE THAT GUY

if you want to identify another 2+2er at the table, just say "sup bro?" otherwise shut the [censored] up unless your telling a fish "nh" or something

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"that was the correct play, 2+2er i presume?"

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translation: "I'm a dick and I'm going to show you how great I am by complimenting you. By the way, I'm more interested in showing off than I am in actually winning money."

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I hope I never get to be 35.

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Supply your home address, your wish will be granted.

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Ummm...will you will me your bankroll?

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Not sure, yet, but it would be nice to go. Stage 15 and 16 goes through some very nice scenery...

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(Hijack, but that is almost already done).

Go to Strasbourg instead/also! I'm going there this year, and I'll get plenty of bang for the buck; pre-race presentation, start/finish of first stage, start/finish of second stage, start of third stage (a couple of miles outside town). I went to Paris, and the hardest stage this year, the Hincapie win at Pla d'Adet in the Pyrenees, and that was amazing! Wouldn't mind 15 & 16 this year too though. I guess I'll try to go to last stage in Paris next year also. Nothing beats the atmosphere there. BTW, I won some money on Thor taking the green jersey this year. :-)

Adde

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Okay, good, so I wasn't the only one that sucked in my breath when a poster was astonished that women over 35 play this game. Dumbass kids are giving us their parents' tuition money, ladies! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

In relation to the post, I heard a wonderful thing at the tables last night. Two players that knew each other were discussing how one had lost his job and I almost left because of collusion possibilities. However, one commented on how he was only working by playing online poker because he was doing so well. He was 85/0/0 with 250+ hands at a 6-max table. Great fun!

Also, 2+2 isn't so hard to find. Anyone that picks up one of the books can flip it over and find the website. Those of us that used to call raises with Q8o are very happy to have discovered this. I know I ain't the only one.

However, people that berate loose players for sucking out ought to be beaten to death. Twice.

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Someone needs to report them as spammers.

Touche!

In other news, the best anti-spam and anti-table-coach weapon is to fill the chat with garble after each line. This effectively hides the trash talk.

Create a text file and fill it with something like this:

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Make a bookmark to the file for easy access (in Start menu, etc). When table coach enters, open the file, copy all text and fire at the chat.

Voila!

Adde

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so all this worrying is for NAUGHT.

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http://webster.com/dictionary/naught

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I understand that people get annoyed by players helping other players on the table, but still it has always been like that, and it will always stay like this since being helpful this way is part of human nature.

So just accept it!

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No, when it cuts into my profits, I will not accept it. If you want to be nice refund a part of their losses after the session, but don't tell me I have to accept your ideals. Poker is not about being nice. It is about extracting the most money (over the long run) from other players. You can be nice as you take their money, but teaching them how to play better is absurd. You are their to take their money. Why suddenly decide that you want less of it? If they stumble onto this site or 2+2's great books, fine. Why lead them there?

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And as for sex, it only gets better for women over 35 (and smart young men know that). For women there is really no upper limit. Alas, this is not true for men who struggle in that department as they age (go, little blue pill). You young fellows sitting in your underpants in your parents' basement, 8-tabling and pissing in pickle jars, don't try to teach your grandmas to suck eggs. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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My nominee for post of the year.

Mack

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if you want to identify another 2+2er at the table, just say "sup bro?" otherwise shut the [censored] up unless your telling a fish "nh" or something

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"sup bro?" --- i was wondering what the secret code was

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Time and time again I see some table captain berate a big time donator for a stupid play and all I can do is just sit and watch while I grit my teeth and wish I could kick him square in the nuts.

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Check this out, there's some psychos out there. This was on Party. Let's hope they never hack into the membership databases:

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loser: how can u call that?
loser: you aren't legit buddy
loser: you better be paying me my $400 that you cheated from me n1gger
loser: before i slit your throat.
winner: cuz I know you are a crybaby....just reload please
loser: so you call reraises with a 1:15 pathetic shot?
winner: whaaaaaaa
loser: i dont care its a few bucks to me, but the basis is that you are blatantly cheating money from me, if i dont have that $400 within 5 min i will slit your throat
loser: and you dont wanna know about ur kids
winner: lol


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You guys are fvcking idiots.

Like it makes a difference if someone mentions 2+2. They won't know what it means anyway.

I see this place has not changed. Still filled with tards who think their 2/4 limit tables are part of the wsop.

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most newbies end up in OOT anyway so chill.

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