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My plan is to slow cook ribs for dinner tonight. I am planning to make cornbread as a side dish.

Any other suggestions for easy to make southern style side dishes?

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Thirty seven posts and no one has mentioned fried green tomatoes? Serve them with some homemade remoulade sauce.

On the other hand, check out the 'On the Side' section of the menu at one of the best rib restaurants in the country.
http://www.hogsfly.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=25

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There's a real macho thing about BBQ places having next to nothing in the way of side dishes, for whatever reason. I say, if you're gonna serve friggin' nachos, I think you can go out on a limb and throw a corn cob on the grill.

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corn bread

corn on the cob

collared greens

Brunswick Stew

Mac-n-cheese

Those are pretty much the staples of "southern" cooking that I've seen down here in Atlanta.

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sure, you can get ribs 'tender' by smoking them.. but you can't get them to fall off the bone... and I prefer my connective tissue to not be solid when I'm eating it.

Unless you're doing some other prep to the ribs - like using a brine or smoking them in some kind of sauce - then there's no way you can break down that connective tissue. Literally, when I'm done cooking ribs - they fall apart - I have a serious problem taking them from the oven to a plate - because it just falls apart.

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You're wrong, sir.

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why am I wrong?

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oooo i cant BELIEVE i forgot brunswick stew!!!!!

and yes mac n cheese BUT only homemade...none of that box crap

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sure, you can get ribs 'tender' by smoking them.. but you can't get them to fall off the bone... and I prefer my connective tissue to not be solid when I'm eating it.

Unless you're doing some other prep to the ribs - like using a brine or smoking them in some kind of sauce - then there's no way you can break down that connective tissue. Literally, when I'm done cooking ribs - they fall apart - I have a serious problem taking them from the oven to a plate - because it just falls apart.

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You're wrong, sir.

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why am I wrong?

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Because what you said is not true. What part didn't you understand. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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sure, you can get ribs 'tender' by smoking them.. but you can't get them to fall off the bone... and I prefer my connective tissue to not be solid when I'm eating it.

Unless you're doing some other prep to the ribs - like using a brine or smoking them in some kind of sauce - then there's no way you can break down that connective tissue. Literally, when I'm done cooking ribs - they fall apart - I have a serious problem taking them from the oven to a plate - because it just falls apart.

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You're wrong, sir.

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why am I wrong?

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Because what you said is not true. What part didn't you understand. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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ah jake.. I understand that you're an expert in every field.. or at least have some nonsensical thing to say about everything. That's cool. I understand that there's some traditional, macho thing involved in smoking meat, to while away in front of a fire - outside. I understand that.

...and if you want to justify your macho-ness by saying that I'm wrong, and not pointing out any particular flaw in my logic - that's cool, too.

...but you won't be making better ribs than me.

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Ok, there's only one way to settle this.

Jake, cook me some ribs.

G-Cheese, cook me some ribs.

After I've eaten both, I'll tell you which ones are better.

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ah jake.. I understand that you're an expert in every field.. or at least have some nonsensical thing to say about everything. That's cool. I understand that there's some traditional, macho thing involved in smoking meat, to while away in front of a fire - outside. I understand that.

...and if you want to justify your macho-ness by saying that I'm wrong, and not pointing out any particular flaw in my logic - that's cool, too.

...but you won't be making better ribs than me.

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No. I'm not an expert in every field. I AM an expert in THIS field. As I said, I grew up in the BBQ bidness. I did point out the flaw prior to your post. The flaw is that if you can't get ribs tender by smoking them then you have no idea what you're doing.

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ah jake.. I understand that you're an expert in every field.. or at least have some nonsensical thing to say about everything. That's cool. I understand that there's some traditional, macho thing involved in smoking meat, to while away in front of a fire - outside. I understand that.

...and if you want to justify your macho-ness by saying that I'm wrong, and not pointing out any particular flaw in my logic - that's cool, too.

...but you won't be making better ribs than me.

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No. I'm not an expert in every field. I AM an expert in THIS field. As I said, I grew up in the BBQ bidness. I did point out the flaw prior to your post. The flaw is that if you can't get ribs tender by smoking them then you have no idea what you're doing.

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...but most people don't have a nice, big smoker that can fit a slab of ribs in it, do they? My way, not only makes the meat incredibly tender, and deals with connective tissue - which I'm still not convinced that smoking does... but it's also something that anyone with an oven can do in their own homes. I'm not saying that you can't make good ribs by smoking them, I'm saying that *anyone* can make great ribs by following my simple advice.

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come over some time..

I live in Madison, Wisconsin.

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come over some time..

I live in Madison, Wisconsin.

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I'll be right there.

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...but most people don't have a nice, big smoker that can fit a slab of ribs in it, do they? My way, not only makes the meat incredibly tender, and deals with connective tissue - which I'm still not convinced that smoking does... but it's also something that anyone with an oven can do in their own homes. I'm not saying that you can't make good ribs by smoking them, I'm saying that *anyone* can make great ribs by following my simple advice.

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Now you're backpedaling...and you should be because you're wrong. Anyone that cares about good ribs has a smoker. They're not expensive and you can get them anywhere. Ribs should taste like they were smoked. Period. You can't get that from adding some crappy fake smoke [censored] to your crappy ketchup-based sauce. And you can't get it from 5 minutes on the grill. If you want good ribs, you have to smoke them.

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No.

If you want "good" ribs, you can get that on the grill.

If you want "exceptional" ribs, you go with smoke.

that's the difference.

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I think they should both smoke something right away.

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...but most people don't have a nice, big smoker that can fit a slab of ribs in it, do they? My way, not only makes the meat incredibly tender, and deals with connective tissue - which I'm still not convinced that smoking does... but it's also something that anyone with an oven can do in their own homes. I'm not saying that you can't make good ribs by smoking them, I'm saying that *anyone* can make great ribs by following my simple advice.

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Now you're backpedaling...and you should be because you're wrong. Anyone that cares about good ribs has a smoker. They're not expensive and you can get them anywhere. Ribs should taste like they were smoked. Period. You can't get that from adding some crappy fake smoke [censored] to your crappy ketchup-based sauce. And you can't get it from 5 minutes on the grill. If you want good ribs, you have to smoke them.

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now that's crazy talk. I'm differentiating between good and great. Ribs don't have to taste like they're smoked. period.
..and crappy ketchup based sauce - that's crazy talk as well. The wonderful thing about that sauce that you make with the recipe I provided is all the juices from the ribs are preserved. I don't know much about smoking - but I'd imagine that some of that flavor is going up in smoke. Plus - smoke, really? you like that flavor you get from the resins from wood (or whatever you smoke it in)? Why not just braise it in terpentine?

Why don't you provide your recipe for ribs? You can start a new thread, and see which recipe people like better.

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This is a good one peachy. I have a good recipe for this as well if the OP is interested.

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I don't know about the OP, but I am. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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again, OOT rocks

The Kentucky Derby pie is out of the oven and cooling.

The cheese and garlic grits are in the oven baking.

The green beans are cut, I'll start boiling the ham hock soon for it.

Ironically, I have not made the corn bread yet. But that's fast.

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Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy miz Clawdy.

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http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/southern_cooking

http://www.goldpills.net/southern-co...g-recipes.html

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Any time I can make the least contribution to a journey this epic, I feel satisfied.

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So I made the ribs, cornbread (impostor version, no iron skillet), green beans cooked with ham hock, garlic cheese grits, and Kentucky Derby pie.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2...dishes20zt.jpg

Everything was a big hit with Mrs.StevieG and the in-laws. Thanks to jakethebake, vulturesrow, 4_2_it, and everyone else that made suggestions. The mac and cheese will just have to wait for another time.

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So I made the ribs, cornbread (impostor version, no iron skillet), green beans cooked with ham hock, garlic cheese grits, and Kentucky Derby pie.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2...dishes20zt.jpg

Everything was a big hit with Mrs.StevieG and the in-laws. Thanks to jakethebake, vulturesrow, 4_2_it, and everyone else that made suggestions. The mac and cheese will just have to wait for another time.

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StevieG,

Glad I could help you score some brownie points with the missus and her family [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The whole thread got me craving some good Southern cooking so I was pleasantly surprised to find that my wife was making fried chicken, baked beans, and green beans tonight.


PS Please tell me you served sweet iced tea with dinner...

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Garlic Cheese Grits

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that sounds interesting - recipe?

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Garlic Cheese Grits

6 cups cold water
1 teaspoon crushed garlic
1 1/2 cups hominy grits
1 tablespoon chopped yellow onion
1/4 cup milk
2 eggs, beaten
8 ounces cheddar cheese, grated or cut into small cubes
1/2 teaspoon salt

Preheat oven to 350°. Bring water to a boil. Add grits and return to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer about 5 minutes. Remove from heat,add all other ingredients, and put into oiled casserole pan. Bake covered for about 45 minutes, stirring midway.

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OMG I make them that exact way!

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In Texas, we do not recognize this as necessary, or even particularly desirable.

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In Texas, we do not recognize this as necessary, or even particularly desirable.

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huh?

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The sweetness, I mean. Me and mine frown on sugared tea. I'm not really sure what the majority Texas position is; probably depends on region.

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Sorry to disappoint - sweet tea would have been a good call. That's Yuengling lager on the table.

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The sweetness, I mean. Me and mine frown on sugared tea. I'm not really sure what the majority Texas position is; probably depends on region.

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Ahh, well sweet tea is pretty standard Southern fare.

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Sorry to disappoint - sweet tea would have been a good call. That's Yuengling lager on the table.

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Yuengling is a pretty good pairing with the ribs I think.