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If you got a beef with BK talking in the 3rd person, PM him.


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jason_t thinks that PokerBob wears skirts.

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E1 D1ab10 does not think your little jokes are amusing.

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I think BK should just stop referring to himself in the third person. Go look at your past posts. EVERY single one. Get over it.

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WTF does this have to do with the post??

If you got a beef with BK talking in the 3rd person, PM him.

Lawrence

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I am sure if BK insists that Tommy refer to him in the 3rd person then the price will go to $10K [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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when i first saw the thread title i thought BK = burger king.

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when i first saw the thread title i thought BK = burger king.

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Then the answer is definately no. I don't think Tommy can cook.

Seriously though, what decision has been made? Will we get a trip report?

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Haven't I read on his site that Tommy does a free preliminary phone interview with prospective clients to discuss, among other things, whether or not hiring him is worthwhile to that particular player or not? It seems to me (from reading his website and posts) that if anyone could be unselfish and objective about such a matter, it's Tommy. And he certainly has more relevant experience than anyone in helping you to decide.

Might as well see what his opinion is. Maybe he'll say "get lost Moneybags!" [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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How is this guy on the uneven bars? Hm.

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I think you would benefit moreso than most, and most would benefit a great deal. Tommy will teach you about a lot of things that you have never thought about, and there's no price you can put on that. Plus, he's a great guy.

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BK,

You should do this.

I work for a very large Wall Street firm. Every year we have trips for the other very successful brokers. I get more ideas from talking to these people than any other source during my year. Ideas that I take back to my business and that make me more money.

Take advantage of a different point of view.

Ironman Dave

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I wasn't sure until I saw what you get as a diploma.

http://www.tiltless.com/diploma.htm

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"I also think that you would be better served finding a friend, an eqaul with whom to talk about poker."

I agree. I could never pay for lessons considering I can get free advice at will from legendary limit holdem expert Jesse Martin. . . .

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That guy is a fish. I remembered he picked off the 75+ rebuys tournament at the Turning Stone Casino Resort back in 2001. He straight ran over the famous Paully Wad and has been living off his reputation ever since. Anything he tells you is pure garbage, you are better off coughing up the 5 dimes.

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Who makes more $$ playing poker? You I'm sure. You don't take business advice from people who are less successful than yourself.. common sense... You should charge him if you had a trade...

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this is not true at all.

do baseball hitters have hitting coaches?
do wall street execs have management teams?
do actors have directors?

etc. teaching and doing are different, and im 100% sure TA can do both very well.

BK, i think this would be 5k very well spent.

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BK, i think this would be 5k very well spent.

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I assumed this issue had been resolved one way or the other by now, but FWIW I couldn't agree more. I have been getting coached by Tommy just over the phone and can't believe that he wouldn't be extremely helpful for you. It's not like he just teaches you when to raise the turn. The guy is a genius.

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Flub would be worried about TA's style throwing a spanner in BK's winning style and turning him into a less winning player.

Changing one part of one's game can have unexpected consequences in other parts of one's game. When you're already at a very high level it's much easier to make a change that lessens your game then raises it.

The 5k is meaningless compared to if your game will improve or get worse. And if you're playing as a 2/100 BB winner it may be better to protect your current game from changes which could worsen it rather then trying to make changes to improve it.

Great I've said it three times in three different ways. If three people agreed with me I'd be rather suprised.

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I'm agree with you.

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One more thing. If you want a good time and a different perspective at poker I'd suggest flying to Ljubljana. The guy continues to kill the high stakes party games and the girls will be much nicer there then in San Francisco.

-f

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If TA could make a killing online that is what he would be doing. BK if this was actually a serious post i think finding someone who has made in excess of $1,000,000/year for last two years off limit poker on the internet and paying him whatever he wants for a couple of days of coaching would be the avenue.

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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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BK, i think this would be 5k very well spent.

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I assumed this issue had been resolved one way or the other by now, but FWIW I couldn't agree more. I have been getting coached by Tommy just over the phone and can't believe that he wouldn't be extremely helpful for you. It's not like he just teaches you when to raise the turn. The guy is a genius.

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Could you give us some examples of why you say he's a genius? He seems to have a talent for poetic writing. Maybe he should be declared 2+2's Poet Naureate. But in terms of becoming a better player, I've not been overly impressed with anything he's written here so far.

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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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Do you have the ability to post anymore without including some sort of equation and/or function? It seems like you can't even say "fold" anymore... it has to be: "EV(playing hand | action thus far) < 0.0"

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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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Do you have the ability to post anymore without including some sort of equation and/or function? It seems like you can't even say "fold" anymore... it has to be: "EV(playing hand | action thus far) < 0.0"

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Do you have the ability to post anymore without including some sort of equation and/or function? It seems like you can't even say "fold" anymore... it has to be: "EV(playing hand | action thus far) < 0.0"

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That was the perfect response. I was hoping you would go this route. OK, I am back to laughing again today [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

-joey

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Who makes more $$ playing poker? You I'm sure. You don't take business advice from people who are less successful than yourself.. common sense... You should charge him if you had a trade...

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this is just stupid. im repeating everyone else, but whatever. look at arod. he has tons of coaches, as well as an intense sports pyschology team. most people credit that for helping him adjust to new york and becoming the mvp this year. as for CEOs, a big part of the reason CEOs get to where they are is because they know how to delegate. they know what they are good at and what they cant do, and assign responsibility according to that.

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"If TA could make a killing online that is what he would be doing."

It's amazing how people seem to know, as if my magic, what another person is doing; also amazing that they seem to know what they would be doing.

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If TA could make a killing online that is what he would be doing.

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As usual, Andy is dead-on with his response to this. To make assumptions about what Tommy is or isn't doing, or what he might want to do, is completely retarded. I also feel sorry for you if you think that making a killing at online poker is the life that everyone should strive for.

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BK, i think this would be 5k very well spent.

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I assumed this issue had been resolved one way or the other by now, but FWIW I couldn't agree more. I have been getting coached by Tommy just over the phone and can't believe that he wouldn't be extremely helpful for you. It's not like he just teaches you when to raise the turn. The guy is a genius.

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Could you give us some examples of why you say he's a genius? He seems to have a talent for poetic writing. Maybe he should be declared 2+2's Poet Naureate. But in terms of becoming a better player, I've not been overly impressed with anything he's written here so far.

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I understand that you are not impressed with his posts on this site. Many people are not. I personally find them entertaining, but more importantly I thought they displayed the type of thinking that I needed in a coach. His whole approach is to play tilt-free and in that way I really think he is a genius. It is easy to say that BK or other high stakes players obviously don't tilt because if they did they couldn't beat the high limit games that they do. But this is almost certainly not the case. Sure, he probably doesn't go on complete monkey tilt and blow through bankrolls but he almost certainly makes plays at times which he knows not to be the optimal play for whatever reason. Tommy provides a unique perspective on poker and life and I think BK (and anyone else) would find it interesting and profitable to hear it.

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As a matter of fact I've dropped 200bb in the last 24 hours mostly at 50/100 and 100/200 and I'm still upbeat about poker.


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ENJOY!.

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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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yeah, I wish people would stop providing reasoning to back up their opinions. the best posts clearly include one word

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I do not know tommy angelo personally, but if you can afford the fee, I see no reason why you shouldnt do it. The learning process for this game never ends, and I believe you will get something out of consulting with him. If I could afford the fee, I would surely call him up even though I dont know him.

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BK, i think this would be 5k very well spent.

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I assumed this issue had been resolved one way or the other by now, but FWIW I couldn't agree more. I have been getting coached by Tommy just over the phone and can't believe that he wouldn't be extremely helpful for you. It's not like he just teaches you when to raise the turn. The guy is a genius.

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Could you give us some examples of why you say he's a genius? He seems to have a talent for poetic writing. Maybe he should be declared 2+2's Poet Naureate. But in terms of becoming a better player, I've not been overly impressed with anything he's written here so far.

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I understand that you are not impressed with his posts on this site. Many people are not. I personally find them entertaining, but more importantly I thought they displayed the type of thinking that I needed in a coach. His whole approach is to play tilt-free and in that way I really think he is a genius. It is easy to say that BK or other high stakes players obviously don't tilt because if they did they couldn't beat the high limit games that they do. But this is almost certainly not the case. Sure, he probably doesn't go on complete monkey tilt and blow through bankrolls but he almost certainly makes plays at times which he knows not to be the optimal play for whatever reason. Tommy provides a unique perspective on poker and life and I think BK (and anyone else) would find it interesting and profitable to hear it.

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I think I may understand what you mean. There are times when I'm playing and I think I'm playing fine. But there are other times when I'm in the 'zone' and I realize that those other times I was actually playing quite below my potential and don't really realize it. If Tommy could get me to be in the 'zone' close to all the time, that would be worth $5K in a week.

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So who is Chip Reese, Phil Ivey, Barry Greenstein's coaches??? Poker is different this is all mental. I'm sorry but poker isn't any different than business.. I tend to listen to people making more $$ than me and tend not to listen to people making a lot less than me. There is a reason why people are in the spots they are in life.

You don't pull up in a limo to get financial advice from someone who just drove up on his bicycle.

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I also feel sorry for you if you think that making a killing at online poker is the life that everyone should strive for.


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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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yeah, I wish people would stop providing reasoning to back up their opinions. the best posts clearly include one word

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I hope that you are kidding and realize I was just poking fun at Barron for dropping in lots of extra math-speak as of late.

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the price of tommy's services for you are likely to be 5k*(1-.4) or 3k. cost includes lost $ from playing etc. + price.

may be worth it if you want to play live more.

Barron

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Do you have the ability to post anymore without including some sort of equation and/or function? It seems like you can't even say "fold" anymore... it has to be: "EV(playing hand | action thus far) < 0.0"

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yeah, I wish people would stop providing reasoning to back up their opinions. the best posts clearly include one word

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I hope that you are kidding and realize I was just poking fun at Barron for dropping in lots of extra math-speak as of late.

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yeah I know. I felt like writing it anyway. it wasn't mean spirited even though it might've came off that way

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I met up with Tommy Angelo when I was in vegas a month or so ago. It wasn't by plan, but he happened to be at the Wynn talking to clarkmeister, Ed Miller, and Dynasty when we went over to say hello to those guys.

So I discussed it with him and we all played a 40/80 game together for about 5 hours...and we decided the coaching package is not for me.

I'm not sure if he does it, but I bet I could benifit from a couple hours of over the phone coaching...maybe I'll talk to him about that.

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we all played a 40/80 game together for about 5 hours...and we decided the coaching package is not for me.

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Can you explain how you guys arrived at that conclusion based on your session?

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I met up with Tommy Angelo when I was in vegas a month or so ago. It wasn't by plan, but he happened to be at the Wynn talking to clarkmeister, Ed Miller, and Dynasty when we went over to say hello to those guys.

So I discussed it with him and we all played a 40/80 game together for about 5 hours...and we decided the coaching package is not for me.

I'm not sure if he does it, but I bet I could benifit from a couple hours of over the phone coaching...maybe I'll talk to him about that.

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He does do it.

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we all played a 40/80 game together for about 5 hours...and we decided the coaching package is not for me.

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Can you explain how you guys arrived at that conclusion based on your session?

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they talked about it over the table.

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I met up with Tommy Angelo when I was in vegas a month or so ago. It wasn't by plan, but he happened to be at the Wynn talking to clarkmeister, Ed Miller, and Dynasty when we went over to say hello to those guys.

So I discussed it with him and we all played a 40/80 game together for about 5 hours...

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NPA was actually playing poker...?

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Right, I was looking for a little more detail without being too revealing.