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mackthefork 06-07-2005 07:28 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Get some books and take some time away from the table before the big one GL with those final hands man, this would kill me.

Mack

TheHip41 06-07-2005 11:31 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Results so far:

Hands Needed: 120,000
Hands Played: 91,229
Hands Left: 28,771

Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

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Are you missing a 0 in there somewhere? This is horrible for 100000 hands, unless you are playing .05/.10, then good job [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

O Doyle Rules 06-07-2005 12:02 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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FWIW, you seem not to be getting paid off much (except maybe by me [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ) because of how straight-forward you are forced to play.



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Huh?

I don't get it. Straight Foward is where the money is.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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You're right, of course. Maybe poor choice of words. But when even calling stations are folding to your bets and raises, maybe you've gone a bit too far....

It just seemed to me O'Doyle was avoiding situations where he wasn't a big favorite. In the hand I mentioned in a previous post, IIRC, he had QQ in EP while I had AA in LP. He flopped a FH and check-raised the turn. I think I should have 3-bet here, but did not because I suspected a monster. I think he's putting the fear of God into his opponents-- not always a good thing in poker, but probably unavoidable considering what he's doing.

Of course my critique may not be accurate-- I don't claim any great poker skill or insight. These are just my observations, for whatever they are worth....

O'Doyle: sorry if any of this seems unwarranted, and again, best of luck to you.

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Hey Devil,

I always appreciate any constructive advice/critisizm of my play. To me, naturally, I feel that I am never getting paid off on my big hands and people never fold to my TPTK hand and always hit on the end. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] (Ok, more whining on my part.)

O Doyle Rules 06-07-2005 01:44 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Results so far:

Hands Needed: 120,000
Hands Played: 91,229
Hands Left: 28,771

Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

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Are you missing a 0 in there somewhere? This is horrible for 100000 hands, unless you are playing .05/.10, then good job [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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No, I am not playing .05/.10. This play has been split approximately this way:

$1/$2 - 65%
$25 NL - 20%
$2/$4 - 10%
$3/$6 - 2 %
$5/$10 - 2 %
$50 NL - 1%

No disrespect sir, but I challenge you to play over 91,000 hands in 29 days (3 days of this challenge I only played 24 hands) while also working a full time job and let's see where your win rate ends up. If you're comparing this to playing 10K, 20k, 30k, 40k, 50K hands in a month's time, this is a night and day difference.

I would be willing to wager that almost every winning player that is on this forum would see their win rate plummet if they played this amount of hands in the amount of time I have.

Art Vandelay 06-07-2005 02:02 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Jane, get me off this crazy thing! (Obscure Family Guy reference)

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improved your post

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? I'm not familiar with FG, but that certainly was a Jetsons reference. Did FG swipe it?

-Mike

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No, it was a full-blown Jetsons bit within the show. So it was clearly referencing the Jetsons, not stealing it.

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I wasn't aware of the Family Guy using the line in he show. I do remember Mike Myers using it in "I married an axe murderer."

My two favorite lines in that movie was spoken by Mike Myer's Scottish father in the movie. (played by Mike Myers as well)

They were: "Head!" (naturally a favorite for obvious reasons)

and of course: "Piper down! I repeat, we have a piper down!"

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Don't forget his tirade about he Colonel. "Ay the Colonel, with his wee beedy eyes! He puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it night and day you smartass!" Sorry if I butchered it, its been too long since I've seen that movie.

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I believe he makes you crave it fortnighly but you got the majority of it.

O Doyle Rules 06-07-2005 04:10 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Odoyle, Harrington on Holdem 1 & 2 plus some warmup tourneys should do the trick.

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Just placed my order for HOH # 1 & 2. (Sure seems to be the consensus around here that they can make a difference. Hmm, wonder why?)

GrannyMae 06-07-2005 04:13 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
what's up with the cranium-contest?

Granny wants action and will be happy to measure you two myself and post the results immediately from vegas.
(note to self--- bring latex gloves)

wooo

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O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 12:48 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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what's up with the cranium-contest?

Granny wants action and will be happy to measure you two myself and post the results immediately from vegas.
(note to self--- bring latex gloves)

wooo

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I haven't talked to Mr. True in a while, so I don't know if "The Measure of the Melons" is going to happen in Vegas or not. I am assuming you have a 50 foot measuring tape?

Toddster18 06-08-2005 01:02 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Results so far:

Hands Needed: 120,000
Hands Played: 91,229
Hands Left: 28,771

Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

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Are you missing a 0 in there somewhere? This is horrible for 100000 hands, unless you are playing .05/.10, then good job [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Give the dude a break. I'm amazed he's able to play break-even poker... He's playing like 500 hands an hour for like 6 hours a day on top of a job. I would be hemmoraging cash. Hah.

-Todd

And though I think there's something sick and wrong with this much poker... I commend you for your work ethic. Good luck, Doyle!

Sponger15SB 06-08-2005 01:08 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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No disrespect sir, but I challenge you to play over 91,000 hands in 29 days (3 days of this challenge I only played 24 hands) while also working a full time job and let's see where your win rate ends up.

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If I played 90,000 hands in 30 days and only won $500 I'd shoot myself in the head....either that or work on not being such a terrible poker player.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 10:05 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Results so far:

Hands Needed: 120,000
Hands Played: 91,229
Hands Left: 28,771

Estimated Hours: 292
Hours Played: 222
Hours to go: 70

Winning/Losings: + 573.00

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Are you missing a 0 in there somewhere? This is horrible for 100000 hands, unless you are playing .05/.10, then good job [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Give the dude a break. I'm amazed he's able to play break-even poker... He's playing like 500 hands an hour for like 6 hours a day on top of a job. I would be hemmoraging cash. Hah.

-Todd

And though I think there's something sick and wrong with this much poker... I commend you for your work ethic. Good luck, Doyle!

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Thanks, Todd. Believe me, I am more disappointed than anyone about my miniscule win rate. With that being said I think some people are totally discounting the value of the WSOP trip I am going to win. Value of trip: $ 13,000, True points: $ 700.00 (approximately) plus whatever I hopefully end up winning once this challenge is completed. A winning 1 BB/100 hands $3/$6 player (including rakeback) would have to play 237,883 hands to equal this value.

And I also agree that there is something sick... very, very sick about playing this much poker in this amount of time and I would not recommend it for anyone else. And you are also right about my work ethic, it is "the workaholic" in me that allows me to do this. And I am working this hard at it because I view the value I will be receiving for this at the end of this challenge worth it.

Thanks again.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 10:08 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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No disrespect sir, but I challenge you to play over 91,000 hands in 29 days (3 days of this challenge I only played 24 hands) while also working a full time job and let's see where your win rate ends up.

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If I played 90,000 hands in 30 days and only won $500 I'd shoot myself in the head....

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Hey Sponger,

Maybe you ought to give it a try, either way something positive might happen.

parappa 06-08-2005 10:11 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Good on you, both for your insane challenge and also for your honesty in posting your win rate. Most people would lie about it.

itsmarty 06-08-2005 11:59 AM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Maybe you ought to give it a try, either way something positive might happen

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AAmaz0n 06-08-2005 12:18 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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No disrespect sir, but I challenge you to play over 91,000 hands in 29 days (3 days of this challenge I only played 24 hands) while also working a full time job and let's see where your win rate ends up.

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If I played 90,000 hands in 30 days and only won $500 I'd shoot myself in the head....

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Hey Sponger,

Maybe you ought to give it a try, either way something positive might happen.

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thanks a lot; just what I needed this morning. Something to read that made me spray my coffee out my nose. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

BTW, I would love to have your win rate. I'm still stuck; these damn fools know how to make J8o crack my AA on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Nothing personal guys, but I really don't think that anyone who isn't playing 3,000 hands a day every day should be cutting on O'Doyles win rate.

Shauna

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 01:12 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Good on you, both for your insane challenge and also for your honesty in posting your win rate. Most people would lie about it.

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Thanks, your words are much appreciated.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 01:19 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Nothing personal guys, but I really don't think that anyone who isn't playing 3,000 hands a day every day should be cutting on O'Doyles win rate.
Shauna

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Thanks, Shauna.

My thoughts exactly. Run a marathon in my shoes.

Tapin 06-08-2005 01:36 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Run a marathon in my shoes.

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Well, I can do a mile in about 3:40, so a marathon should only take me about an hour and a half. Especially since I'll "get used to it" while I'm out there. Right?

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 02:51 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Run a marathon in my shoes.

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Well, I can do a mile in about 3:40, so a marathon should only take me about an hour and a half. Especially since I'll "get used to it" while I'm out there. Right?

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Excellent, Tapin!

If I maybe so bold as to interpret your statement as how it relates to online poker win rates. If I have won at a win rate of say 2 BB/100 hands over the last 120,000 hands I have played, if I play 120,000 hands over the next 40 days, I will win the same amount of money.

Hmmm. But wait a minute, in the first 120k hands, I played that over a six month period, picking exactly the times I wanted to play, who I wanted to play against, and I never played if I was tired, upset or feeling bad.

If I play this 120k hands over the next 40 days, playing whenever I am able to, playing at any available table just so I can get the hands in, and continue to play even when I am tired, upset or feeling bad, ah heck, I still should be able to win at 2 BB/100 hands, after all, I am that good.

grimel 06-08-2005 03:58 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
If you look back on some of his earlier updates, I did play 2500 or 2800 in a day. Anyone who thinks he's playing bad needs to STFU and do better for a month at the same hands/day.

MicroBob 06-08-2005 04:10 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
for my PPM cruise raked-hands marathon I played about 20k hands of 10/20 6-max in 4 days. Just 4-tabling...but sometimes the table might be 3-handed...and hands go faster on Party anyway.
I was getting almost 100 hands an hour on each table...400 hands an hour in total much of the time.

I played about 15-17 hours a day for each of the 4 days I think (a little less on the first day) and was also playing from 3:00a-1:00p to get the double-points so I was getting REALLY tired.


I was up as much as $3k at one point (150BB).
I finished down $600 (-30BB).

My play was getting worse and worse as I got more and more tired. I would occasionally not see that there was a 4-flush or 4-straight by the river and that would cost me 1 or 2 extra bets if I was just auto-raising still with my KK or something.
And this is on a site where you can actually SEE the cards (whereas on True it is significantly more difficult).


Of course...I won the $12k value cruise trip....and I placed in the money on the cruise and won $5215 cash.
But even if I hadn't made the money it was still worth it because the vacation itself was fantastic.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 05:51 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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for my PPM cruise raked-hands marathon I played about 20k hands of 10/20 6-max in 4 days. Just 4-tabling...but sometimes the table might be 3-handed...and hands go faster on Party anyway.
I was getting almost 100 hands an hour on each table...400 hands an hour in total much of the time.

I played about 15-17 hours a day for each of the 4 days I think (a little less on the first day) and was also playing from 3:00a-1:00p to get the double-points so I was getting REALLY tired.


I was up as much as $3k at one point (150BB).
I finished down $600 (-30BB).

My play was getting worse and worse as I got more and more tired. I would occasionally not see that there was a 4-flush or 4-straight by the river and that would cost me 1 or 2 extra bets if I was just auto-raising still with my KK or something.
And this is on a site where you can actually SEE the cards (whereas on True it is significantly more difficult).


Of course...I won the $12k value cruise trip....and I placed in the money on the cruise and won $5215 cash.
But even if I hadn't made the money it was still worth it because the vacation itself was fantastic.

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The fatigue factor cannot be understated in how it impacts one's decision making/mistakes made.

I also definitely feel that when this is all said and done I will feel that it was all well worth it, even if I don't get to cash at the WSOP as well.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 05:52 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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If you look back on some of his earlier updates, I did play 2500 or 2800 in a day. Anyone who thinks he's playing bad needs to STFU and do better for a month at the same hands/day.

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grimel, I think you have had my back since day one. Thanks.

TruePoker CEO 06-08-2005 08:54 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Doyle,

Tell you what, you are certainly putting in the effort. However, why don't you knock off after June 15, regardless of where you stand. If you have not made the 120,000 hands by then, you can play them out after the WSOP.

Truthfully, we do not want you burnt out for the WSOP and we want you to enjoy the trip/tournament. (We also want you to enjoy playing online and give your best game.)

See you in Las Vegas,

GrannyMae 06-08-2005 09:04 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
bravo


pretty classy for a cro-magnon man

MicroBob 06-08-2005 09:10 PM

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Sorry granny...but I'm going to have to correct you yet again!!


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EXTREMELY classy

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Well done TPCEO!!
And congrats O-Doyle.

IggyWH 06-08-2005 09:28 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
I'm always amazed at the class David has. I remember back when he first started coming around because of someone accusing his site of stealing money from them, and although the guy was a complete jackass, David always took the high road. For those of you that remember that guy, we all wanted to lay into that moron.

Congrats O Doyle and keep up the good work David &amp; the True team!

grimel 06-08-2005 10:10 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
No problem, I looked at my "normal" play rate and said "what's the big deal, I'll give it a go". HA! I'm glad I (for once) had the good sense to try it before opening my mouth. My recent Fri/Sat bonus clearing marathon was even more proof (I miscalculated the req hands for the Interpoker bonus which was a good thing for my BR). I KNOW the beating my BR would take at that rate for 30+ days.

You are the man! I really think this will be a big plus for you at the WSOP. If you make day two (for sure if you make it into the money) I expect to see you and your story on ESPN!

grimel 06-08-2005 10:20 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Doyle,

Tell you what, you are certainly putting in the effort. However, why don't you knock off after June 15, regardless of where you stand. If you have not made the 120,000 hands by then, you can play them out after the WSOP.

Truthfully, we do not want you burnt out for the WSOP and we want you to enjoy the trip/tournament. (We also want you to enjoy playing online and give your best game.)

See you in Las Vegas,

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This is the type of action that makes me want to fight with the 3d and play at True. BTW, it does get easier with more play.

ANYONE at a certain large site? reading this? This is how you treat players! True Poker has it's act together. Unlike certain large sites which will remain nameless, True's tech and customer support have it together.

Not too long ago, I had a small problem at True (insignificant and I would still play if they blew it off). I messaged the host. We went back and forth for a few messages until he was sure he had it down and went for help. Was back in 10-15 minutes, yup, I was right it did happen, we fixed it sorry it took so long to fix, sorry you had the problem. If they are worried about 10-15 minutes to contact TS, accounting, verify it, fix it, and get back to me certain large sites need not expect much beyond clearing bonuses.

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 11:15 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Doyle,

Tell you what, you are certainly putting in the effort. However, why don't you knock off after June 15, regardless of where you stand. If you have not made the 120,000 hands by then, you can play them out after the WSOP.

Truthfully, we do not want you burnt out for the WSOP and we want you to enjoy the trip/tournament. (We also want you to enjoy playing online and give your best game.)

See you in Las Vegas,

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Ah, you're a little worried about your fellow big head, I see. No need to worry, I will have plenty left for the WSOP to represent myself and TruePoker to the best of my abilities. If I were you I would be more worried that your noggin is not going to measure up to mine once we hit Vegas!

Thanks, David it is nice to have that "peace of mind" that I'm in and to echo what others have already said, you and TruePoker are a class act and I sincerely appreciate you giving me this opportunity and thank you for it.

As far as the 120k hands go, I am a "say what I mean, do what I say" type of guy. I signed up for 120k hands, and sir, 120k hands you will have!

Once again, MUCH THANKS!

PS - Hey David, I had sent you a couple of e-mails with some questions I have. Let me know if you have seen them. Thanks.

Sponger15SB 06-08-2005 11:21 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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If you look back on some of his earlier updates, I did play 2500 or 2800 in a day. Anyone who thinks he's playing bad needs to STFU and do better for a month at the same hands/day.

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Uh, are you kidding? He is playing barely over breakeven poker.

Its pretty obvious he isn't a good poker player and he needs to work on his game a lot.

Also, I think the most hands I've played in one day is something like 4,000+. It isn't hard, especially when 8 tabling short handed games.

Hiding 06-08-2005 11:21 PM

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I think both O'doyle and TrueCEO are class acts. Well done, to both of you.

Hiding 06-08-2005 11:24 PM

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Uh, are you kidding? He is playing barely over breakeven poker.


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he's still going to the WSOP...........are you?

Sponger15SB 06-08-2005 11:26 PM

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Uh, are you kidding? He is playing barely over breakeven poker.


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oooo burn! zzzzzzzz

Btw, I'm not completely crazy.

O Doyle Rules' old post

O Doyle Rules 06-08-2005 11:26 PM

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You are the man! I really think this will be a big plus for you at the WSOP. If you make day two (for sure if you make it into the money) I expect to see you and your story on ESPN!

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Thanks, grimel and all the others that have offered up their congrats!

ewile 06-08-2005 11:27 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Good job Mr. True. That was a very nice thing that you did.
Keep it up O'Doyle.

grimel 06-08-2005 11:33 PM

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Also, I think the most hands I've played in one day is something like 4,000+. It isn't hard, especially when 8 tabling short handed games.

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Okay, now do that for 30 days and work a real job.

Sponger15SB 06-08-2005 11:37 PM

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Also, I think the most hands I've played in one day is something like 4,000+. It isn't hard, especially when 8 tabling short handed games.

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Okay, now do that for 30 days and work a real job.

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See, but that sounds like the stupidest idea in the world.

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AAmaz0n 06-08-2005 11:39 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
Very nicely done, a class move. It will do him good to get some rest.

I look forward to seeing O'Doyle do well in the main event.

Shauna

uuDevil 06-08-2005 11:41 PM

Re: My TruePoker WSOP 120K Hands Challenge - Update # 6
 
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Doyle,

Tell you what, you are certainly putting in the effort. However, why don't you knock off after June 15, regardless of where you stand. If you have not made the 120,000 hands by then, you can play them out after the WSOP.

Truthfully, we do not want you burnt out for the WSOP and we want you to enjoy the trip/tournament. (We also want you to enjoy playing online and give your best game.)

See you in Las Vegas,

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Impressive.

O'Doyle Rules!


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