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As for the predicted death of Empire, c'mon, seriously?

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Yes, seriously.

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So, Empire (and presumably Eurobet and Interpoker) is going out of business because they are offering a less-attractive-than-usual bonus (see the point later in the thread about Party) as their SECOND BONUS IN THE MONTH, but sites with shitty software (like Paradise) and that offer shitty (or no) bonuses regularly (like the Cryptos) and that have shitty games are going to continue in successful operation as they have?

What color is the sky in your world?

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My argument is simply about the time, why limit this to 10 days? I'm ok with them making it 20x but at least give me some time to play on the site. I'm a casual player who 4 tables and there's no way in hell I can complete 6000 raked hands in 10 days. I'd have trouble getting 2000 raked hands in 10 days if I only went for $100 bonus.

WHAT A F-ING JOKE!
 

EMPIRE HAS TURNED INTO just another scumbag WEBSITE. ITS WORTHLESS AND THEY HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE, enjoy licking up multi's leftovers, you SCUMBAG WEBSITE!!!

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My argument is simply about the time, why limit this to 10 days? I'm ok with them making it 20x but at least give me some time to play on the site. I'm a casual player who 4 tables and there's no way in hell I can complete 6000 raked hands in 10 days. I'd have trouble getting 2000 raked hands in 10 days if I only went for $100 bonus.

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True. I don't mind them making money, but I hate the pressure. Anything that has me playing over about 500 hands total/day is going to be a pass for me.

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My argument is simply about the time, why limit this to 10 days? I'm ok with them making it 20x but at least give me some time to play on the site. I'm a casual player who 4 tables and there's no way in hell I can complete 6000 raked hands in 10 days. I'd have trouble getting 2000 raked hands in 10 days if I only went for $100 bonus.

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True. I don't mind them making money, but I hate the pressure. Anything that has me playing over about 500 hands total/day is going to be a pass for me.

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Exactly. 600 raked hands/day at my limit is going to be around 1000 hands a day. I dont really have the time to play 4 hours a day for 10 straight days. I would do it otherwise because this would be a good bit of motivation to do a hands challenge or an OIC or something.

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So, Empire (and presumably Eurobet and Interpoker) is going out of business because they are offering a less-attractive-than-usual bonus

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No, Empire will go out of business because they existed mainly as a rakeback zone for Party players. Party knew this, which is why they cut them loose. Explain to me why you think Empire will continue to do well when you can play the exact same games with 10x as many players at Party? The nice blue color scheme?

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i apoligize, but i'm ultra-new to bonii. my question is about the deadline. let's say i deposit 300, but only clear 5500 rh in 10 days. do i lose it all or just $25??

i know this question is stupid and basic, but i have not recieved a response yet from empire about it so i decided to try here.

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EMPIRE HAS TURNED INTO just another scumbag WEBSITE. ITS WORTHLESS AND THEY HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE, enjoy licking up multi's leftovers, you SCUMBAG WEBSITE!!!

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I completely disagree with this, but then again you're pretty dumb so I guess this kind of thing could be expected.

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EMPIRE HAS TURNED INTO just another scumbag WEBSITE. ITS WORTHLESS AND THEY HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE, enjoy licking up multi's leftovers, you SCUMBAG WEBSITE!!!

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I completely disagree with this, but then again you're pretty dumb so I guess this kind of thing could be expected.

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I wouldn't expect you to agree with me, because you are pretty dumb and but not agreeing with me, that makes me feel good [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I know I have the opposite opinion of a jackass!

If you had any sense, you would say all the crap that has gone on in the last month with party and the skins and realize what is happening, but I don't expect that from an idiot like you [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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i apoligize, but i'm ultra-new to bonii. my question is about the deadline. let's say i deposit 300, but only clear 5500 rh in 10 days. do i lose it all or just $25??

i know this question is stupid and basic, but i have not recieved a response yet from empire about it so i decided to try here.

[/ QUOTE ]don't expect a reply from the dumb indians at EMPIRE it will take them a week just to figure out what you are asking but, yes.

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You have to finish the requirement before the deadline otherwise the bonus won't get released and you get absolutely nothing. They might extend the deadline for 12 hours or something but I won't put money on it.

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Methinks the end draws nigh for Empire.

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i can't understand why ANYONE would still play there when party has all the action tables, with the exact same software.

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Actually, Party's software is better now.

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No, at Party and the ex-skins, you must clear the TOTAL bonus within the alloted time frame or you receive nothing. The bonus is released as one amount. (Multi is the exception, since they have multiple bonuses last month and this month, however each bonus released independently of the others, so if you attempted 4 of them and only cleared 3 then you still got the 3 and only lost the 4th.)

If you choose to do the bonus:
1) Figure out how many hands you can realistically play in the given time frame
2) Deposit for that number of hands (Total played hands not just raked hands)
3) DO IT, just don't come up short or you will find yourself in a bad spot.

Personally I plan on doing the full Empire bonus, along with the Multi bonuese, and the Euro bonus. I finish the fisrt Empire bonus tonight and start the new one Thursday. It is VERY convienent that I have been learned to 8-table, otherwise I might be passing on some of these.

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Hmmm... The reason for the 10 days to clear may be that Empire is trying to pad their active player numbers during that period of time. They are now a publicly traded company, and perhaps they are trying to raise their share price. The reason it is a 20X clear is that they want to pay the minimum possible for this. Many will try to clear the bonus and will be unable to play 6000 raked hands in 10 days.

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i apoligize, but i'm ultra-new to bonii. my question is about the deadline. let's say i deposit 300, but only clear 5500 rh in 10 days. do i lose it all or just $25??

i know this question is stupid and basic, but i have not recieved a response yet from empire about it so i decided to try here.

[/ QUOTE ]don't expect a reply from the dumb indians at EMPIRE it will take them a week just to figure out what you are asking but, yes.

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i was expecting a post from our favorite mrmcvickers...what happened to your own online site that pays 5,000 dollars for a sign up bonus where you can whore it out for 2 hours with multiple accounts!!!

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What site is that?

I did the eurobet one. Before the split I can deal with a 20x skin bonus, not now though. Right now most people there are BWs, I saw a fish blow away 50BB in 10 minutes. For my 3600 hands I only see one fish like that.

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Many will try to clear the bonus and will be unable to play 6000 raked hands in 10 days.

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Yeah, especially since with the tighter tables and increase in no-flop hands, it will probably take something like 13000-14000 hands (even at 6-max) to get the 6000 raked hands.

I've played some days where I've done 1200-1500 hands in a day, but never for 10 days in a row.

Feels likes this will be a partial deposit bonus especially since I'm still working on partials for the last three Multi reloads from October and have the Eurobet one to work on as well.

Actually, I guess Eurobet can wait since it has a *gasp* [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] 30-day clearing time.

Dave

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So, Empire (and presumably Eurobet and Interpoker) is going out of business because they are offering a less-attractive-than-usual bonus

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No, Empire will go out of business because they existed mainly as a rakeback zone for Party players. Party knew this, which is why they cut them loose. Explain to me why you think Empire will continue to do well when you can play the exact same games with 10x as many players at Party? The nice blue color scheme?

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If Party continues to insist on focusing on getting new players and re-attracting dormant players instead of catering to existing, high-volume players, then I think a site with the same software but better bonus offers (bonii earn in the neighborhood of the old rizzle-bizzle) will be fine.

Again, how does Paradise exist with crap software?

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If too many people do this bonus, Empire will get the idea that 20x is an ok bonus to offer.

I won't touch it with a ten foot pole. I don't want to encourage them to continue to stick it to us in the future. Screw Empire.

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When I'm hurrying and mutitabling I play low limits and don't pay enough rake to cover the bonus.

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Did you actually think about this before you typed it? Minimum rake is .50. You have to play 6,000 raked hands to clear this bonus. Therefore, the hands you play are going to create at least $3,000 for Empire. So, if EVERY PLAYER AT THE TABLE is clearing bonus in every raked hand you play AND the rake only reaches the minimum level on each of those hands this is EV-neutral for Empire.

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I was talking about party bonuses in general (ie x7) and I do play NL but the specifics aren't important. What I was getting at was that, as far as I could see, having a tight time limit doesn't actually make them more money and may make them less. I'd be interested hear if others think different.

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What I was getting at was that, as far as I could see, having a tight time limit doesn't actually make them more money and may make them less.

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Sorry for the snappish response...I had a bad morning.

At least in the limit world there's a cap on rake. I suspect that any given table will hit the rake threshold and the rake cap about the same amount, regardless of how distracted individual players are.

And, in fact, I think the reason Empire is offering this particular bonus so quickly after the PLAYOCT bonus is to see exactly what they can get away with while still catering to whores (so I think this is actually good for us, since it indicates to me that Empire is easing up on their anti-whore policies).

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i apoligize, but i'm ultra-new to bonii. my question is about the deadline. let's say i deposit 300, but only clear 5500 rh in 10 days. do i lose it all or just $25??

i know this question is stupid and basic, but i have not recieved a response yet from empire about it so i decided to try here.

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LOL. Vickie, I'm sure you know this, but "yes" isn't a useful answer to an either/or question.

To the poster, you either clear it all or you get none of it...the same is true for most time-limited bonii you'll find.

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EMPIRE HAS TURNED INTO just another scumbag WEBSITE. ITS WORTHLESS AND THEY HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE, enjoy licking up multi's leftovers, you SCUMBAG WEBSITE!!!

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Bozlax, Chicken Little. Chicken Little, Bozax. Shake hands.

Re: EMPIRE 100% to $300 10x 300MATCH
 

ha! i laughed at that "yes" response too! but thanks a lot for the responses. you saved me a lot of headache and stress if I was to do a full 300. I think i'll do 125, i can handle that. i have to admit that they are being deceptive with their bonus: i realize 15K hands (or whatever 6Krh converts to) is possible in 10 days, but that's a lot of 4-tabling.....

someone new to bonuses like myself could easily fall into this trap and come up short only to get NOTHING>!!

thanks again guys for saving me the time and stress.

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someone new to bonuses like myself could easily fall into this trap and come up short only to get NOTHING>!!

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Don't think Empire is not happily anticipating this happening to many people.

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If I deposit a chunk, will this one work off first or my old one that has to get cleared by friday?

I figure empire will screw me over if I deposit something to clear my old reload and have the monster 20x'er clear first

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FYI -
I responded to the email they sent me about the bonus. I politely said that it would be nearly impossible to clear $300 in 10 days, and that even $100 would be difficult. I said that I didn't think 20x in 10 days was competitive with other sites. Here's their response:
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Thank you for contacting customer support.

There will be more promotions in the future that may suit you better, thank you for your views and comments.


If you have any more concerns or suggestions please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

Julie
Empire Poker
Customer Support Team



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enjoy

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FYI -
I responded to the email they sent me about the bonus. I politely said that it would be nearly impossible to clear $300 in 10 days, and that even $100 would be difficult. I said that I didn't think 20x in 10 days was competitive with other sites.


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i basically sent the same email. hopefully if enough of us don't take it and email them that it sucks, they will come up with something better.

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As much as I hate to admit it, MrMcVicker has a point. This bonus is absolutely not worth it.

Wonder where McVicker recommends? After all, he's the supreme whore of all.

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As much as I hate to admit it, MrMcVicker has a point. This bonus is absolutely not worth it.

Wonder where McVicker recommends? After all, he's the supreme whore of all.

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I'm a SUPREME WHORE?????

Finally someone is giving me the god damn respect I deserve

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CODE NOT WORKING!!! just tried on one of my accounts!

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CODE NOT WORKING!!! just tried on one of my accounts!

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JUST ONE MORE REASON NOT TO BOTHER WITH THESE IDIOTS!

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I just tried it and it didnt work for me either. Emailing them right now...

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I can't stand this constant Bullsh!t at Empire [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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FINALLY GOT IT, its worthless, rockgarden, pissed about 10 dollars in rake in less than 500 hands

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They added the bonus to my bonus account after I emailed them, and decreased the hand quota to 5600 since I had played 400 raked hands between entering the code and receiving the bonus.

Not bad customer service.

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Hmmm...last week I play at Empire for $100 deposit x 10x = $100 for 1,000 raked hands.

This week, if the minimum Neteller deposit is $50 at 300% = $150 for...is that 3,000 raked hands???

---Leavenfish

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It's 100% up to $300 not 300% so your $50 gets you a $50 bonus for 1,000 hands

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i got this email,laughed at it and deleted it,20X is a joke,
joke offer from a joke site

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wtf,

i deposited 125 a little after midnight and it still is not registered in my bonus account. i emailed them today and it still is not there. I know i said that i'm new to bonii, but i just did a 30% up to 100$ reload at party last week with no problems.

this is pissing me off. it'll probably show up in my bonus account after 9 days and i'll have to play 2500rh in a day to clear it . fun.