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I just called. I felt right. I think I just didn't want to take a chance on changing the way the game was playing. These two guys felt it was their job to raise and reraise every hand, then they played very predictably after that. I guess I just didn't want to upset the apple cart with this hand.

I was pretty sure I had the best hand, so it seemed weird not to raise.

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hi andy
you like KJs, i know. we've been on opposite sides of this one before, but andy, this hand is badly dominated. when gabe hits top pair, he's got problems. gabe won't fold for a single bet very easily, and that sets the trap. also, he doesn't have any draw to the nuts unless he hits a straight draw. the big problem there of course is that even if he completes his straight, he may be up against something that will curdle his hand's starch a bit. i don't know andy. i'll take QTs over the KJs in this type game.

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I didn't say I necessarily like this hand in this situation, all I was commenting on is your statement that you'd prefer K-Jo over K-Js because it would be easier to get away from. This is precisely the kind of game you're not worried about getting away from a hand post-flop because, by Gabe's description of the players, the pot is going to be huge before the flop and very passive after the flop. If the concept of wanting a non-suited hand in order to be able to get away from it has any merit, it would be in a no- or pot-limit game. This game is almost an anti-pot-limit game. Gabe's post title describes it perfectly.

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I think its' a double edged sword. I think folding these hands all day and only playing the nuts is profitable(*JJ+ AQs AKo AK) and I also think playing anything that u know totally dominates these loonies is profitable. Ex. QKS,KJS Aks-ATs Ako-Ajo QJs 99-AA.

The second way to play is probably more profitable, but will have much much higher swings. I personally tighten right up for these games as I don't like to take a huge dent in my BR because these games are hard to find regularly in my area.

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Yes, I would play KJs in a capfest. But there must be easier games for Gabe's bankroll. You can't chase anybody out on the flop with the pots so big preflop.

So if you can handle the preflop action, play good drawing hands and pocket pairs preflop. What must be folded preflop are hands like AJo, ATo, and KJo.