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goofball 12-28-2005 10:00 AM

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yeah. of course you should bet the river. this is just about the easiest river bet ever!

Nick Royale 12-28-2005 10:27 AM

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I think we agree that calling is the worst option, yes?

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Calling>folding>raising imo. If the players left to act is extremely tight then maybe raising>folding>calling or raising>calling>folding, but at my average 5/10 table I would limp, easy. And playing an average 2/4 table raising would be terrible and folding really bad.

At a 2/4 table, raising from MP2 2nd in will most often result in a 3-4 way pot, and paying 2 bets to see the flop against 2-3 players would really suck with 44.

Nick Royale 12-28-2005 10:28 AM

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I think you should raise preflop.

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Readless raising is terrible, oh so terrible.

goofball 12-28-2005 10:37 AM

Re: River Checking(Stars 2-4)
 
readless raising is aweosme. Without a read limper have crap. We have a pair and a pair beats crap. We should raise and rely on our limper to just call and then fold if he misses like he usually will. How could you not raise here.

12-28-2005 11:12 AM

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I fold preflop

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I think you should raise preflop.

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I think we agree that calling is the worst option, yes?

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Folding is the worst option.

Nick Royale 12-28-2005 11:14 AM

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readless raising is aweosme. Without a read limper have crap. We have a pair and a pair beats crap. We should raise and rely on our limper to just call and then fold if he misses like he usually will. How could you not raise here.

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At a 2/4 table, raising from MP2 2nd in will most often result in a 3-4 way pot, and paying 2 bets to see the flop against 2-3 players would really suck with 44.

Your reasoning is so weird. You're in MP2 and you're playing 2/4 and you assume a raise will get you hu.

jason_t 12-28-2005 11:23 AM

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I think you should raise preflop.

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This is terrible. You'll almost never get it HU and even if you do your hand has some pretty bad reverse implied odds.

12-28-2005 01:29 PM

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I think you should raise preflop.

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This is terrible. You'll almost never get it HU and even if you do your hand has some pretty bad reverse implied odds.

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With 1 limper in MP, I'm inclined to raise or fold. How often will it be raised behind you if you do limp in and then you're paying two bets to see the flop?

If you raise, as you say, most likely it won't be HU and a pair of 4's with overcards hitting in a large pot can't be good.

bisonbison 12-28-2005 01:53 PM

Re: River Checking(Stars 2-4)
 
With 1 limper in MP, I'm inclined to raise or fold.

Ok, I'm in MP with a small pair and 1 limper in. I am almost never going to get 4 folds if I raise. I am likely to get at least 1 limper behind me if I limp. 4 handed to the flop is not bad for a small pair, and if I limp and it's raised behind me and I flop a set, I'll have excellent position to c/r the raiser.

I think this is a pretty clear limp, but I don't think folding probably costs you a ton in the long run. Raising in a typical 2/4 game would cost you a lot of money.


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