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LoaferGee12 12-22-2005 05:12 AM

Re: question about information calldown
 
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i think you're overestimating pfr hands at this level, honestly.

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Not taking pfraises seriously against any unknown player is a very dangerous habit to get into no matter what the level. I fold preflop.

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Agreed.

12-22-2005 05:12 AM

Re: question about information calldown
 
fair enough.

therockofgibraltar 12-22-2005 05:51 AM

Re: question about information calldown
 
Like others have said: fold pf (or 3-bet) [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

But to your actual question, I would raise this flop.

Monty Cantsin 12-22-2005 01:24 PM

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i think you're overestimating pfr hands at this level, honestly.

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Not to beat the dead pre-flop horse here, but what? People raise less at lower levels, not more.

On the flop I raise or fold. I don't want to call it down and I don't want to pay multiple bets on the expensive streets.

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dealer_toe 12-22-2005 01:52 PM

Re: question about information calldown
 
not raising or folding preflop leads to tough, very marginal decisions on flops like these. And I don't think many people are comenting on the flop because its a spot that we're probably never going to be in.

Edit: Also a cold call is even worse at .5/1 than it is at higher levels. This is because unknowns are more passive PF making their PFR range even smaller and increasing the possibility of you being dominated.

POKhER 12-22-2005 02:20 PM

Re: question about information calldown
 
On the flop you've got to fold or raise i think.

like a Q7 example in SSH i think, on a T7x flop i believe, although this is shorthanded and lots of people play aces... So no... it isn't like the SSH example at all duh.

Anyhow you've got raise to protect/Value if you think you're ahead.

I guess you could put forward an arguement that its killing his bluff, but your not way ahead and giving cards away can screw you.

i.e. a queen on the turn will suck.

12-22-2005 02:24 PM

Re: question about information calldown
 
How could you possibly cold call this? Aggghhh this is awful. 3-bet or fold. And I don't really see how you could want to 3-bet here, unless you already have a read on the villain. KT is dominated 6 ways to sunday, and "at this level" people are actually tighter with their raises then in bigger games.

Raise the flop if you're gonna play, though.

12-22-2005 02:37 PM

Re: question about information calldown
 
I would be more likely to 3-bet KT at a higher level than at .5/1 party. I don't see why you play KT on the flop or after the flop.

What range do you give this dude? I think almost every hand beats you.

I fold preflop, fold flop.

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EvanJC 12-22-2005 02:55 PM

Re: question about information calldown
 
this is a very easy preflop fold absent a maniac read


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