Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

You can only take one maybe two coldcallers if you raise that ATo early position. If you're playing in these loose games, that's not going to happen. Calling is wrong, raising is wrong, so its an easy fold.

Fold the flop. It's pretty likely MP2 is going to raise after you like he did.

Raise that turn. You're going to pay at least two bets to get to showdown anyways..., try and kick out MP2. If you get 3-bet, its an easy fold. BB just hit aces up. I think you know what you did wrong on the river.

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

Raise Ato preflop? Why would we raise in MP with ATo in a loose game? Is this an equity raise?

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

You wouldn't open raise MP with ATo against somewhat tight opponents? I think I'd do it against most microlimit players, anyways. You know you're going to outplay them.

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

Partially. It's also the best too we have to get this as few handed as possible, where ATo shines.

I don't always play ATo, but I will never limp it.

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

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You wouldn't open raise MP with ATo against somewhat tight opponents? I think I'd do it against most microlimit players, anyways. You know you're going to outplay them.

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eg.
We raise preflop with ATo in MP. An LP calls our raise. The flop is:

4 6 A

LP calls all our bets to the river.

What does he have? How can we outplay them when we don't know if we're best or not?

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

You outplay loose, bad players by playing more aggressively where they do not and tighter where they do not. On that board, LP could have a pocket pair or weaker ace. LP could have you outkicked but it's unlikely since he's LP. I'd play that board exactly the same as you said.

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

I hear what you're saying.

what's this mean?
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LP could have you outkicked but it's unlikely since he's LP.

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His postion doesn't determine is hards. I know you aren't trying to say this, but this is what I'm reading.

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

oh you mean loose passive! not "late position". Am i right?

Re: ATo always ridin my arse
 

Yeah, that's right.