Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

What other hands are a clear push in this same situation. What would be only a call? JJ? AK? AQ?

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

I'd definitely fold AQ. JJ and AK are both kind of meh. I'd really need to be at the table to decide on those two.

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

I'm a bit of a noob with SNG, but I think a push is too aggressive here.

What's CO's range? To raise 99+, AQ+? To call a push say JJ+, AK.

That gives me 6(99)+6(TT)+8(AQ)=20 folds. 16(AK)+6(JJ)+1(QQ)+6(KK)+6(AA)=35 calls.

Of the calls I'm tying 17 (16 AK and 1 QQ), behind 12(AA,KK) ahead 6(JJ). Say we win 15/35.

EV = (860) * 15/(20+35) - for the calls by COwe win
+ (-800) * 20/(20+35) - for calls by CO we lose
+ 180 * 20/(20+35) - for the folds
= +9 T$

I haven't counted the possibilty UTG may call a push here. I like calling and pushing any non A or K flop.

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

tiger, by "meh".... what would your play be if the original raiser was loose, average or tight with a hand of AK or JJ?

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

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QQ vulnerable?! Wow.

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Well Cloutier says they used to call them "baby pairs."

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

Yes, at a level where preflop raises are not made randomly, QQ after a re-raise is a very vulnerable hand. I don't understand why a solid player would even try running a play (reraising with less than AK) on 7/15 blinds after UTG minraised. This is a clear bet to protect his big hand and build the pot, because otherwise why not just fold? There is like 50 chips in the pot - what is 125 reraise trying to steal?

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

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Yes, at a level where preflop raises are not made randomly, QQ after a re-raise is a very vulnerable hand. I don't understand why a solid player would even try running a play (reraising with less than AK) on 7/15 blinds after UTG minraised. This is a clear bet to protect his big hand and build the pot, because otherwise why not just fold? There is like 50 chips in the pot - what is 125 reraise trying to steal?

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Hey Buster! Have you ever played an SNG before?

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

Cloutier also didn't play too many 50-30-20 SNGs in his time I don't think -- and even still they're baby pairs for him.

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

Buster, feel free to put in about 500 SNGs, and get back to us on how vulnerable QQ is here.

IC5, on a $33 I would just push, and expect to be called by AJ+, 99+. A fair amount of time, they will fold.

PS: In a situation like this, I asked a guy why he raised his pair so much, and he responded, "how else do you get A-rag out of the hand?" He had 55 btw.

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 

I've played a few thousand SNGs by now on Crypto (avg. buy-in around £200) and I'll be on Party in a few weeks. From my experience the only people I continuously see(over months) in my level games are the ones that play similar to me. All the others get hot for about a month or two, and then sink back to the $50-$100 levels or leave altogether.

I always thought I was a winning player b/c my opponents sucked. Now I can see the flawed logic "good" players like you attempt to use.

I commented specifically on the SNG levels I play. I have no clue what do at $33.