Re: 88 hand
 

I like how you played it up until the river where I would call.

Re: 88 hand
 

Sometimes I raise the flop; sometimes I fold the flop; sometimes I play it just like you, but I call the river.

Re: 88 hand
 

call the river, imo. As far as the play up to the river, Im not really a fan of raising the flop, u get no respect and sometimes 3bet. If I had to raise somewhere Id say the turn depending on the card. But calling down is fine.

Re: 88 hand
 

This looks to me like either a raise/fold flop deal. Raising might get us a free card against the unknown villain. Then we can reevaluate whether to call a river bet. If we get 3-bet, I think it's ok to fold.

Also, isn't there some metagame benefit to raising the flop, after we 3-bet pf?

Re: 88 hand
 

My reasoning for not raising the flop was that I figured most of the hands the BB will call one with, he will call two, so raising wont do me a lot here, and given im very likely at an equity disadvantage I decide to just call and see what happened.

I guess folding the river was pretty weak, but I just didnt see this guy betting all 3 streets with Ah. Tho given I didnt have much of a read to go on besides stats, thats even one more reason for a call. I suck [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: 88 hand
 

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This looks to me like either a raise/fold flop deal.

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Then I suggest you plan ahead and decide if you want to cap. Because it's going to come up. Villain either has a strong made hand or a multiple draw and he's going to want to play it fast on this flop. That JT combination is murder facing a tight UTG raise.

I would invest as little money as possible in this hand until I got a sense of who has what.

The more I think about this the more I think Hero should just fold the flop. I think some posters were lulled by the fact that tricky/aggressive BB quietly folded the flop behind us. There is a huge danger of a flop checkraise, of having the second best hand and the second best flush draw, and of being used as a pinball on the big streets after an interesting card hits.

It says a lot about our flop situation that a good player was willing to fold the river after BB folded behind us and we caught two undercard blanks on the big streets.