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KingDan 12-20-2005 05:10 PM

Re: Curtains Hand - 66 Lvl 2
 
I guess I'm in the minority but I raise this preflop.

To anyone who suggests folding, would you fold this if you were single tabling and focusing entirely on one SNG?

Newt_Buggs 12-20-2005 05:19 PM

Re: Curtains Hand - 66 Lvl 2
 
I definitly raise here.

12-20-2005 05:42 PM

Re: Curtains Hand - 66 Lvl 2
 
I feel the need to chime in here because this is an insta-raise for me. I'd make it 80 or 90 to go. Open folding this in the CO just sounds so weak to me; I don't know the numbers but I can't see it being -EV to play the hand.

pineapple888 12-20-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Curtains Hand - 66 Lvl 2
 
[ QUOTE ]
You raise 3xbb so when the bb calls you and checks when he misses the flop you can fire out a 2/3 pot bet and take it down.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why aren't people specifying the buyin any more? Just because it's a curtains hand?

Anyway, assuming this is at the 215s, the BB is far less likely to flat call a raise than at lower buyins.

At a TA table, there are only two categories of hands here: those you will fold to a re-raise, and those you won't.

The latter category would be something like [AA-QQ, AK]. Maybe tighter.

***All of your other hands are identical.***

The better the players, the less your cards matter.

That makes it very difficult to specify the "correct" action at the early levels. It depends greatly on metagame considerations that hardly ever come into play below the 100s.

My two cents...

ilya 12-20-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Curtains Hand - 66 Lvl 2
 
Meh, you're unlikely to win a big pot here, you'll have to play for 175 if button pushes when you're probably a slight dog against his range (and he'll push probably about 16% of the time). If you win a small pot here a bunch of times and lose a slightly larger one somewhat less frequently, you need to be +CEV on average just to be neutral $EV. My intuitive estimate is that you need to average about +20-30 CEV for this to be neutral-$EV. So even if you manage to average +50 CEV or so, it's gonna be only marginally +$EV.


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