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einbert 12-15-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
How do you move up to $25 NL?

Were you playing play money tables before this or what?

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 10:04 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
10NL at Stars. If you really want the total story of my poker journey, PM me and I'll tell you. It's pretty interesting/funny.

12-15-2005 10:05 PM

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How do you move up to $25 NL?

Were you playing play money tables before this or what?

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I laughed.

Anyways, if your going to 3-bet this preflop, raise it much more than that. I prefer just calling the initial raise.

Isura 12-15-2005 10:07 PM

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Actually, I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand < AA-KK. If an A or K falls on the flop, I am usually ahead. I think villian grossley misplayed his hand and wouldn't have had the opporunity if I hadn't offered a lot of chances for him to make mistakes.

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Your thought process in this hand is not very clear. So you want to bloat the pot preflop against TT-QQ, waste more money and fold to a push against KK-AA. All this when you will only hit top pair about 35% of the time on the flop...

Edit: and QQ-TT are not going to payoff that often on an Axx or Akx or Kxx flop anyways.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
I disagree that TT-QQ won't pay off, even with the stack sizes in the OP.

I understand what you guys are saying, but I disagree. When I posted this hand, I was pretty sure I knew that you guys were going to attack the hell out of that 3-bet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Isura 12-15-2005 10:15 PM

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I think he'll re-raise with a hand range that is wider than that at 25NL and the call of the 3-bet elimates AA/KK, IMO.

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Your opinion is wrong.

Andrew Fletcher 12-15-2005 10:18 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
See my other post in this thread for details.

djhoneybear 12-15-2005 10:33 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
I'm not sure of the point of posting a hand when you already know the correct way to play it. Just because your villian raised with A9 doesn't mean that you did the right thing. Also be careful about hanging yourself with top pair. Your going to lose a lot of money with TPTK to two pair hands or sets. Its also good to remember that AK is an underdog against any pair.

Godfather80 12-15-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Watch Waxie Move Up
 
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($55.75)
UTG+1 ($29.40)
MP1 ($3.60)
MP2 ($43.05)
MP3 ($17.30)
CO ($25)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($26.55)
BB ($37.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($5.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP3 calls $5.

Turn: ($17.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9.05</font>, MP3 calls $9.05 (All-In).

River: ($35.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.20

They are 2-betting at 25NL with A9.

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Your raise UTG with AJo is silly. Fold that hand. Then you check raise the flop. Why, to fold out worse hands, but guarantee getting stacked by a set? Just lead out for 3/4 of the pot.

Isura 12-15-2005 10:36 PM

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See my other post in this thread for details.

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Sigh.. I hope you do very well in your poker career. You clearly don't need this forum though.


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