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valenzuela 12-13-2005 04:40 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
I feel unconforable betting 3x the BB. I didnt push AJ because I thought it was -EV.

z32fanatic 12-13-2005 06:00 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
[ QUOTE ]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $680 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2445 )
Seat 6: GoAhdSukOut ( $625 )
Seat 8: kram626 ( $1050 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $980 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9c 9h ]
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [680]

[/ QUOTE ]

I would probably make it 150, but this is fine.

[ QUOTE ]

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1355 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $855 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1640 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2045 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2475 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 9h 6d ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [200].
I_Changed folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Js, 5d ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [100].
D_Maybe folds.

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Fold Preflop

[ QUOTE ]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $2145 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1680 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $2575 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jh As ]
D_Maybe folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would probably fold 1/2 the time and push the other 1/2.

[ QUOTE ]

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1105 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $705 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1790 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1545 )
Seat 9: I_Changed ( $1630 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3225 )
Trny:18244910 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Qd Jc ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer raises [200].
birdie413 folds.
I_Changed calls [200].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 9d, 8c ]
D_Maybe is all-In [905]



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I might just fold, The min raise is suspicious. Flop play is good.

[ QUOTE ]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1505 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1880 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3665 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Td Kd ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [300].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Tc, Ts ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 bets [150].
D_Maybe is all-In [1205]



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I would fold preflop. Flop maybe slowplay more.
[ QUOTE ]

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $1955 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1435 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $1365 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1655 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3590 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ Jc Th ]
birdie413 folds.
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe is all-In [1955]



[/ QUOTE ]
Wow. Fold preflop for sure. This is a bad play.

[ QUOTE ]

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: D_Maybe ( $2180 )
Seat 3: Champ4ever ( $1585 )
Seat 4: schmidbauer ( $840 )
Seat 5: birdie413 ( $1955 )
Seat 10: Imidiotproof ( $3440 )
Trny:18244910 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to D_Maybe [ 6c 8s ]
Champ4ever folds.
schmidbauer folds.
birdie413 raises [350].
Imidiotproof folds.
D_Maybe calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, Td, Qc ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
D_Maybe checks.
birdie413 checks

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I can tell you like to defend but stop defending with any 2 cards. This is such a clear fold it's not even close. Stop defending you BB, you'll get crushed in the long run if you don't.

microbet 12-13-2005 06:20 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
I'm on a text browser so I'm not going to go over each hand now. I think z32 said just about what I'd say, except I'm pretty unlikely to fold the AJ hand.

I certainly don't know exactly what your situation is, but I'm going to risk being a condescending jerk and say something anyway.

You probably need to fix a few things, but I think you will successfully move up through the levels as long as you can come up with a solid bankroll plan and stick to it 100%.

1C5 12-13-2005 06:56 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
I don't think OP has the banroll skills to beat poker longterm.

Hmm, I found $130 so I will play a 109. A good player could take that $130, grind out $5 or $10 games and build a bankroll to play the 109s in a couple months.

Just my opinion.

tigerite 12-13-2005 07:43 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
I agree. I didn't even go near the $109s til I had 100 buyins. Maybe that's a bit extreme, but it's how I wanted to do things.

And as usual I agree with micro, I would also push AJ there, it's just too strong not to. The JT.. well.. it's "okay" as the guy in SB is pretty tight from memory, but never seen the BB before so can't comment, but it's rather thin on $EV terms anyways even if they both call with almost nothing.

I tell a lie. I've seen him once, for 19 hands in which he played one being 66.

12-13-2005 07:53 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think OP has the banroll skills to beat poker longterm.

Hmm, I found $130 so I will play a 109. A good player could take that $130, grind out $5 or $10 games and build a bankroll to play the 109s in a couple months.

Just my opinion.

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I don't see any real harm in playing a single $109 to see what the experience is like, if it's not critical to one's bankroll. None of us knows how much $109 is to OP. Now, if he makes a habit of playing the $109s before he's ready, that's another story, but there's no evidence of that. He just had a night out, had a little fun with the "big boys".

I went out to dinner with my wife a while back and spent over $109. Does that poor bankroll management mean I'll never be able to play the $109s?

1C5 12-13-2005 08:03 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
You haven't seen his other posts have you?

I think $109 is A LOT to the OP.

microbet 12-13-2005 08:10 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
We may be wrong, but some of us guess that $109 is a lot to this 16 or 17 year old Chilean kid who has at least once before lost most of his bankroll by playing bigger games than he usually played. One of us even feels guilty for encouraging him to do it at the time. At least I'm not the vulture who profited off of his troubles, am I, Maulik?

1C5 12-13-2005 08:13 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
How did he profit from it? I missed that story.

microbet 12-13-2005 08:18 PM

Re: My first ever $109..some hands.
 
Quite a while back Val posted that he was going to take a shot at the $55s with a small, but not crazy-small bankroll. He said he was going to do it. I didn't advise him to. Anyway, I bet a case of beer that he would succeed. I don't remember how we defined success. Maulik took the bet and unfortunately he won. Fortunately he accepted money and I didn't have to ship beer to him.


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