Re: Horribly played AK
 

I fold pre-flop. This guy doesn't get in there and play many hands, and he normally plays them weakly. If your hand is good, you won't make much money. Since he is putting you to the challenge in a big pot, you are way behind. There are better ways to earn money than taking on a guy like this with TPTK.

Re: Horribly played AK
 

i think you played it just fine...

Re: Horribly played AK
 

I dunno. I waver back and forth. While I was playing it, I knew I had to fold and not be happy. Then I looked at it later and folding just seemed wrong.

I felt my main problem was folding after putting a little under half my stack in. If I had another $20-$30, it wouldn't seem so bad.

I think a number of people picked out what I think is the key play - fold pre-flop. Against someone playing 10% of his hands and raising less than 2% of his hands, AK just isn't worth it. If I'm going to call, I should be calling with pairs to catch a set.

Thanks for the replies.

Re: Horribly played AK
 

EDIT: oops - I was thinking of a different AK thread: the current AK preflop thread. anyway, i'll leave this nugget of brilliance, FWIW.

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I dunno. I waver back and forth. While I was playing it, I knew I had to fold and not be happy. Then I looked at it later and folding just seemed wrong.


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One thing I always tell myself: Don't let other people's bad plays make you second-guess your good plays.

When deciding whether or not you should have called, you should NOT be considering:
A) The fact that the donks behind you subsequently decided to call with all kinds of garbage

AND ESPECIALLY
B) the fact that you would have come out on top in this particular hand.

JMHO

jchap

Re: Horribly played AK
 

Just because you put almost half your stack in is NOT a reason to feel you should have called here.

Villian's stats CLEARLY indicate you are buried here - he is not taking this line with QQ

However, stack sizes are a consideration on whether or not to raise the flop - I dont want to take a raise/fold to reraise line with half my stack. Thus, I'd just call the flop...I am also releasing this on the turn to any significant pressure

Re: Horribly played AK
 

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Just because you put almost half your stack in is NOT a reason to feel you should have called here.

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Strictly speaking, I agree.

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Villian's stats CLEARLY indicate you are buried here - he is not taking this line with QQ

However, stack sizes are a consideration on whether or not to raise the flop - I dont want to take a raise/fold to reraise line with half my stack. Thus, I'd just call the flop...I am also releasing this on the turn to any significant pressure

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This is what I'm really getting at. I should NOT raise to $40 unless I'm willing to go all the way with this. I probably salvaged my stack, but at the cost of almost half of it.

Based on his stats, the real mistake is the preflop call.

Re: Horribly played AK
 

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How about villians stats (10.6/1.8/1.2). This guy is pretty tight even for 9-handed. He raises pre-flop less than 2% of the time. So, 5xBB PFR, I dont put him on K10. Maybe QJs but I doubt it. This sure looks like AA, KK, or AK. So, at best, you have a push. His post flop aggression is only 1.2 and he moves all in for $164.00. I cant fold my hand quick enough here.

I also would have only made it $30 instead of $40. With villian being this tight a $30 bet (e.g., pot-sized) will let you know where you stand and also save you $10 if he moves all in.

Thoughts?

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Totally agree. Against a weak/tight opponent who shows this much aggression TPTK is no good. In fact, if all he had was TPTK, he probably folds to the Hero's raise. Also, you don't need to raise a large amount against a W/T to find out where you're at. A min-raise will usually tell you everything you need to know.

Edit: BTW, against this guy, I'm either re-raising or folding my AK to his PF. Probably folding.

Re: Horribly played AK
 

Folding preflop is an interesting and now seemingly more profitable play. If you hit and he doesn't, you probably won't get much out of him. I suppose you usually want to call raises w/ hands that have a chance of hitting huge, and being more "masked". I never thought that folding AK might be a better idea.

However, as played, I fold too, grit my teeth, and reload. I say TT here, and in VERY rare cases, KK. But I say more than TPTK 95% of the time with this guy.