Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

Game selection is paramount at 3/6, lots of tough players in that game, but there are still lots of fish. The main difference I've noticed is that at 1/2 a lot of the TAGs don't steal raise anywhere near as much as they should, wheras in 3/6 this error is a lot more uncommon.

It's been a while since I played the 2/4 but all I can remember is avoid Lancington.

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

sorry to bring this back to the topic at hand, but I think the flop on this hand is very interesting. I'm not sure I like calling the flop here

you're getting 14-1 immediate, but after you flat call, the button is basically guaranteed to pop you with any A. if you assume he is 3betting you PF with 99+, KQ+, AJ+, he is going to raise TT(3)/AA(3)/AK(9)/AQ(9)/AJ(9) and not raising with JJ-KK(6*3)/KQ(9)

so i'm guessing you're getting popped 33/60 times and not 27/60 times

14-1 when you don't get popped
17-2 when you do

you have about 5.5 outs which is about 7.5:1

ev=33/60*((1/8.5*14)-(7.5/8.5*1))+27/60((1/8.5*17)-(7.5/8.5+2))=0.0235294118

there is a chance this gets 3bet or capped, but our implied odds are pretty awesome here and definitely make up for it, the flop is a marginal but good call I think

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

fold when it is 2 back to you preflop.

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

Flop call's fine. Preflop is iffy.

Am I missing something? I must be..why are you caling the turn?

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

I don't think these reads apply well to this hand--big pre-flop action, big-card flop. The stats are significant tho. These are not maniacal pfrs for SH. I am leaning towards folding pre-flop when it's 2 back to us. SB capping is not a good sign. I suppose post-flop, the pot is big enough to call for our gutshot on the flop and turn. Flop is slightly questionable as SB & button may get into a raising war with us in between.

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

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We have a gutshot, and getting 11.5:1 to call and close the action.

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

Cheers JBA - Good analysis, I need to learn/attempt these calculations often so i can establish +EV and -EV calls as im pretty rusty. I guess WTO will teach me when i re-read it.

ANyhow, So we establish the flop call is marginal yet +EV. and the turn call is pretty standard with a gutshot(Pretty sure my outs are clean).

River is easy fold?

Preflop though, Is it stupid to call 2cold with KQo? it felt bad but as i had invested it was either a loss or 2more bets and pray for a good flop(lol).

Re: KQo - Not interesting but wondered.
 

I think the problem with the pre-flop call is that we are putting in 2 more bets to play a hand OOP that is likely to be dominated. If the flop hits us with TPGK, we are spending a lot more bets to find out if it is good.