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Matt R. 12-11-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
Stop and go.

bennies 12-11-2005 07:00 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
I always push here. Lowstacked, we need chips, A9 probably beats villains range. Or it's a coin flip, and this is fine.

Stop n' go might be an idea if someone else was lowstacked as well.

LesJ 12-11-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
If curtains' stack here was even 1300-1400, the easy answer would be push. At only 1000 chips, however, he has practically zero fold equity against the big stack. If he folds this tho, he will be down to 800 and if he has to lay down on the sb, then just 700. He really doesnt have much time to make a stand and I truly think he is ahead here.
I say lets push, and hope our ace holds up.
Les

12-11-2005 07:36 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
well a push has no fold equity. i would fold this. you can push a later hand and steal some blinds. i dont like stop and go either. i fold. i 10 table the 55's.... so take my advice with caution.

12-11-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
Stop and go.. I'm checking if I hit an A or trip 9s though.

microbet 12-11-2005 09:10 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
He minraised. Because SB is in the way, it is much more likely he wanted to be able to fold to SB than just limpin g because he wants action. Pretty much regardless, I think your hand is too strong and your chip position too weak to let this go. Push.

Edit: Not stop-n-go.

bigt439 12-11-2005 09:15 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
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He minraised. Because SB is in the way, it is much more likely he wanted to be able to fold to SB than just limpin g because he wants action. Pretty much regardless, I think your hand is too strong and your chip position too weak to let this go. Push.


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Different story if there is parity among the stacks. You're going to have to do something at some point. You're FE is dwindling and the blinds moving around fast. You still have FE over the button and he could be doing this with a lot. Time is a luxury you don't have.

EasilyFound 12-11-2005 09:34 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
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You still have FE over the button and he could be doing this with a lot

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If hero pushes, isn't button getting 5-2 to call another t620 or so? Isn't that an automatic call for the button?

Paul Thomson 12-11-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
If one of the other stacks were a little smaller (less than 1200), I'd probably fold and try and steal their blind. But if you fold this hand and the SB, then a push will not significantly effect any of the other stacks. So given the situation, I'd use a stop n go, since pushing gives the button nearly 2-1 odds to call.

12-11-2005 10:33 PM

Re: Curtains Hand #1 (1C5)- Bubble play
 
Do you guys use the stop and go a lot here? I've seen a lot of calls by bigstacks with just overcards to flop lately against shorty's stop and gos. Anyone else noticed this stop-and-go "defense" being used? Anyone else make calls like that? Anyway, I hardly ever stop-and-go. Leak?


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