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creedofhubris 12-09-2005 11:14 PM

Re: standard?
 
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If you're limping UTG with TT, then aren't you looking to limp re-raise?

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No.

12-10-2005 01:51 AM

Re: standard?
 
if you're not going to put more money in when you hit your best card, fold the flop. you should raise somewhere with a boat.

creedofhubris 12-10-2005 02:09 AM

Re: standard?
 
[ QUOTE ]
if you're not going to put more money in when you hit your best card, fold the flop.

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Yep, that's what I thought later.

12-10-2005 02:57 AM

Re: standard?
 
Why in the world would you not open the pot? Curious as to how you think limping then calling is of any value, especially since you lose a ton of the value TT affords if the pot is just limped all the way around.

captZEEbo1 12-10-2005 03:00 AM

Re: standard?
 
on that river bet of his, I checkraise allin!

Jason Strasser 12-10-2005 03:04 AM

Re: standard?
 
Lead pot on the turn and go from there.

-Jason

PickyTooth 12-10-2005 03:41 AM

Re: standard?
 
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5/10 NL. I limp T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG. A fairly weak passive player, a little on the weird side, makes it $35 from MP. Folded to me, I call.

We've both got 1K behind.

Flop:

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $10.

I call like a good little fishie.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check. He bets $50. I call.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check again. He bets $50 again.

I call.

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You're the weak passive one :P

Tommy Angelo 12-10-2005 04:54 AM

Re: standard?
 
I might have played it like you did against certain players at certain times.

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has three queens?

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has a straight?

If you thought the answers to those questions were no, then you played it best possible.

creedofhubris 12-10-2005 03:10 PM

Re: standard?
 
TT out of position is a hand that doesn't want to play a big pot unless it hits a set.

The way to do that is to limp preflop, or limp/call a raise and play poker.

creedofhubris 12-10-2005 03:15 PM

Re: standard?
 
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I might have played it like you did against certain players at certain times.

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has three queens?

Will HE call YOUR raise if he has a straight?

If you thought the answers to those questions were no, then you played it best possible.

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I don't think he raises preflop with hands that make 3 queens or a straight. Weak passive making a preflop raise usually means AA-QQ, AK, sometimes JJ.

I have to admit, Tommy, some of your limit stories did come to mind as I was playing this hand.


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