Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?
 

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Without a read fold the flop...

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You are not serious...

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Is folding REALLY that bad?

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I would say yes.

Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?
 

was it 55?

Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?
 

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Without a read fold the flop...

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You are not serious...

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Is folding REALLY that bad?

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well, what do you think he has? JJ-AA? a set? 2-pair? are you folding AA here?

Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?
 

i dont think it's so much that wooly thinks he's behind it's that he's afraid of being OOP and making a big mistake later in the hand. could be wrong though...

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i dont think it's so much that wooly thinks he's behind it's that he's afraid of being OOP and making a big mistake later in the hand. could be wrong though...

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soooo hes saying he cant play OOP on turns/rivers so he wants to fold something thats not the nuts on the flop?

weaaak

Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?
 

No yves, I'm saying against someone without stats. If i had just the little smudgest of a hint of his playstyle I'd probaly play this hand and try to get a cheap SD. I can see leading/blocking all the way down as an effective way to play this hand, and fold to another raise.

Would anyone 3bet or push the flop?

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Any ideas what the flop minraise means from an average unknown at this level? I can't figure out if that means a monster, or if he's just trying to pick off a suspected CB for cheap. I guess with no reads and no idea what he has I should just look for a cheap showdown? Isn't it a little weak to go into check/call mode and give any potential draws a chance to catch up though? The only aggression he's shown is a minraise and a 1/6 pot bet. Is that enough to assume I'm beat?

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The only aggression he's shown is a minraise and a 1/6 pot bet. Is that enough to assume I'm beat?

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Based on the replies to my fold line, I'd say, "no."

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Your turn play completely mystifies me.

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Your turn play completely mystifies me.

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lol, I know, it sucks. I guess what I'm trying to get at here is, is this a situation (facing a flop minraise w/ an overpair) where I should be looking for a cheap showdown, or should I be more aggressive because I'm probably ahead? I couldn't decide between the two and that craptacular turn play was the result.