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twang 12-08-2005 01:41 PM

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not good poker, most of this post seems to be about playing the cards. PLAY THE SITUATION AND THE PLAYERS. Cards are secondary.

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Speaking of generic advice....

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I thought this was a joke, but TBH I'm not sure.

ansky451 12-08-2005 01:48 PM

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Ok, vets says this advice is teh suck. Does anyone care to explain why? Explain to me like I am a five year old who have no idea what to make of some of the "wisdoms" here, for example Gigabet's block-theory.

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Well, what Adanthar said was spot on. The guy is assuming that if the button calls, you are drawing dead. Um, no, you arent.

Aside from that, the advice isn't very thought out in my opinion. The stuff about compounding fraction is just silly. On the one hand he says you should take risks so you can double up, that way you won't be risking your tournament later if you run into a big pot. But on the other hand he says he doesn't like to take coinflips for a large part of his stack, only for certain fractions of his stack. Doesn't seem very justified. All around I think most of his advice is pretty "basic", and as said some of the anthology posts are way better. I don't think its bad advice really, I just am not very impressed by it.

A_PLUS 12-08-2005 01:51 PM

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I dont think the advice sucks per say, just not particularly useful. Adanthar's (and if you read the anthology you will see that he knows more than Phil Ivey [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) post points out the same glaring mistake that I 1st saw.

I am going to grab some lunch then maybe I will point out something I disagree with in each answer.

12-08-2005 02:13 PM

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Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for.

ansky451 12-08-2005 02:20 PM

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Thanks. This is exactly what I was looking for.

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I'd like to hear why you think this is better than eMarkm's post. I liked that one a lot when starting off at this stupid game.

Rduke55 12-08-2005 03:01 PM

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1)A 22% increase isn't enough for him? Heh.


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I also found this bad. (and the AQ hand for the reason you mentioned)

12-08-2005 04:13 PM

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Ok, vets says this advice is teh suck. Does anyone care to explain why? Explain to me like I am a five year old who have no idea what to make of some of the "wisdoms" here, for example Gigabet's block-theory.

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Well, what Adanthar said was spot on. The guy is assuming that if the button calls, you are drawing dead. Um, no, you arent.

Aside from that, the advice isn't very thought out in my opinion. The stuff about compounding fraction is just silly. On the one hand he says you should take risks so you can double up, that way you won't be risking your tournament later if you run into a big pot. But on the other hand he says he doesn't like to take coinflips for a large part of his stack, only for certain fractions of his stack. Doesn't seem very justified. All around I think most of his advice is pretty "basic", and as said some of the anthology posts are way better. I don't think its bad advice really, I just am not very impressed by it.

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As far as the first hour of tourneys goes, and that is where this advice is aimed, i think this post makes some good points. Though it generalizes in some areas, (I think thats the main problem people have with it), I felt that the attention to % of stack risked in coin flips was thought provoking. Although the exact amount I would (risk isnt the right word, promotes weak tight play) "invest" in a coin flip depends on how the table is playing, and what i felt my chances were in the tourney, it never hurts to explore other people's thinking.

Cant remember the rest bc it did seem a little basic.


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