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CIncyHR 12-07-2005 11:11 AM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
Without reading the other replies, I agree he doesnt seem likely to be holding a 2. On the other hand, his VPIP may include any ace. I assume hes raising preflop with AA or AK. Also, his agrro is very high, which could mean he has a weaker ace, a smaller pair, or is just bluffing. This looks like a call to me.

CIncyHR 12-07-2005 11:14 AM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
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I feel like he has AK or AJ here. I don't see him getting overly aggressive with anything that gives him a boat or better by the turn. I would probably fold as well, but it is a tough hand to lay down.

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Dont we think this guy is rasing prelfop with AK?? The only thing I'm strugglnig with is why he smoothcalled the flop, especially given his high aggro. Im not sure he would do that with an ace. Has he done this before? A2 would probably do that, but would other aces?

djoyce003 12-07-2005 11:28 AM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
really not sure.. My read was big clubs actually. He might pull this with AJ or AQ...I think he'd reraise AK but maybe not.

12-07-2005 11:35 AM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
Lay it down, take his loot later, no need to overplay a top pair with a paired board.

Cambraceres

rachelwxm 12-07-2005 11:53 AM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
Any reads? Given that aggression, I like call and gambol. He mostly has ace, I don't think he plays like a 2. u see worse kicker or draw enough to justify this call I think. Against tight rock I might fold.

pho75 12-07-2005 12:03 PM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
I don't think your bets are weak. I'm looking at your play through your villians eyes. After Harrington's book came out it seems like alot of people see every non-pot bet as a c-bet.

pho75 12-07-2005 12:12 PM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
I know what you mean. I guess I should have said that MY gut is usually right. 60-70% right i'd guess.

Isura 12-07-2005 12:53 PM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
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Without reading the other replies, I agree he doesnt seem likely to be holding a 2. On the other hand, his VPIP may include any ace. I assume hes raising preflop with AA or AK. Also, his agrro is very high, which could mean he has a weaker ace, a smaller pair, or is just bluffing. This looks like a call to me.

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This is a perfect spot for AA or AK to cold-call preflop.

12-07-2005 12:53 PM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
mmm hard hard lay down...been there before. That being said, I agree with 4 2 it's logic in this hand, my best guess would be A-6. I would say u probably see that the percentage of the time. I would have loved to see his hand, and if he showed an A-J after you fold I would get up and walk around a bit to cool off the steam. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

4_2_it 12-07-2005 12:58 PM

Re: I hate this fold, thoughts?
 
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mmm hard hard lay down...been there before. That being said, I agree with 4 2 it's logic in this hand, my best guess would be A-6. I would say u probably see that the percentage of the time. I would have loved to see his hand, and if he showed an A-J after you fold I would start imagining how nice his chips are going to look along side mine

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FYP


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