Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes. You'll still have T1000 in chips left, which is far from being desperate. You will now have new information
based on villian's repsonse of you raise to hopefully make
a better choice.

Bruce

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

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Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes.

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Because of the words "early in the tournament." T2o will push. I've seen it so many times.

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

As the others have said, since it's early in the tournament im not folding this one. I have a really nice chance at doubling up here or I go out early. Big deal. I take the gamble (if it's even is a gamble...)

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

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Why can't you fold if you make a 3x raise of villian and he then pushes. You'll still have T1000 in chips left, which is far from being desperate. You will now have new information
based on villian's repsonse of you raise to hopefully make
a better choice.

Bruce

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If I raise t400 and he goes all-in, I have to call t450 to win a t2290 pot, and I need a 20% chance to win to make the call.

If he has 2 pair my chances are ~15%, and I almost have the odds for a call.

If he has a set, my chances are ~3%

But if he has something like AQ or KT, then my chances are 85%.

It doesn't take many of those dominated hands to make up for the two-pair/set possibilities.

I think the call of the reraise all-in is a must.

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

Mathematically a call is very attractive.

But if you look at most of the hands he'll push with, you're
way behind most of them. The only hand you can beat is a smaller Ace.

How you play your hand ultimately boils down to your read
of villian. Absent a read I think if you raise and he pushes you're going to lose more than 80% of the time.
I very well may let this one go and live to fight another
battle.

Bruce

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

And for every time T2o pushes AT will push ten more times.

Bruce

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

Can't argue with your logic, but on the flip side, if you can't fold TPTK early in a tournament you're going to be busting out quite a bit in the first few levels.

Bruce

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

I'm getting all in and pissed when he shows me A9, A10. It's cool...Theres another train leaving the station in a few minutes. I'll be on it

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

His flop bet looks to me like he either has a weaker ace or JQ, trying to get a cheap turn/river/showdown. In this tournament players are more likely to c/r 2pr or better on a flop like this, and lead out with weaker hands. I'd raise to 450 or 500 or so, and only consider folding if SB pushes. Insta-call a push from MP2.

Re: 180SnG, TPTK Facing Bet On Flop
 

Yea but in this case, I got TPTK and he can have a weak ace here. This situation don't occur that often and if I had TPGK with let's say Q10 on a 10-7-4 board I may let that go if the action is to much. I have a hard time folding TPTK this early when I think I am ahead at least 50% of the time, I take the gamble here.