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meleader2 12-02-2005 08:20 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
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nope...making this call with A5 in the long run is very -EV against a normal range.

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well at any rate i'm sure u got it all back and then some soon after

whitelime 12-02-2005 08:23 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

MP ($1458.50)
CO ($1174.75)
Button ($1015)
SB ($874.75)
BB ($3816.50)
Hero ($958.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $200</font>, BB calls $145.

Turn: ($475) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero calls $723.25 (All-In), BB calls $723.25.

River: ($1921.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1921.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 8c 8d (one pair, eights).
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $1921.50. </font>

meleader2 12-02-2005 08:26 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
nh

whitelime 12-02-2005 08:28 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
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You can't expect them to pay off your feigned busted draw overbets but fold to your overbets when you really have nothing.

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This implies that he's either going to call every time or fold every time. That's an extremely exploitable strategy.

In reality, what happens among good players is it becomes a guessing game. Usually the board dictates how likely you think your opponent will play a particular hand with an overbet on the river like that. If the river wasn't a diamond, I wouldn't make the play because 33 is probably the only hand I could play that way. However, with the diamond, I could now have 33 in addition to any x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]y [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

EverettKings 12-02-2005 08:43 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
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You can't expect them to pay off your feigned busted draw overbets but fold to your overbets when you really have nothing.

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This implies that he's either going to call every time or fold every time. That's an extremely exploitable strategy.

In reality, what happens among good players is it becomes a guessing game. Usually the board dictates how likely you think your opponent will play a particular hand with an overbet on the river like that. If the river wasn't a diamond, I wouldn't make the play because 33 is probably the only hand I could play that way. However, with the diamond, I could now have 33 in addition to any x [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]y [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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I agree, but as I read it this wasn't a battle of two good players who know each other well and are playing some guessing game. This guy seems mediocre, and against a mediocre chap it looks like you desperately trying to represent something. I'm just not convinced that he's picked up on your tendency to overbet big hands, and it more looks like you going apeshit on a good bluff card. If I missed a read and hes actually a good thinking player that knows you, then I take that back.

Everett

Edit: I read "sandbag" not as someones screen name but as some description of his play being laggy. Whoops. I guess this guy is reputable?

Hattifnatt 12-02-2005 09:05 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
You played it bad, villian played it even worse.

BobboFitos 12-02-2005 09:30 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
pot the turn, this is an excellent card and spot to 2nd barrel.

FreakDaddy 12-02-2005 09:40 PM

Re: 5/10 NL 6Max....Is this chip spewing?
 
Do you think your opponents is observent enough to notice your play?

Don't think I need to say much more. I think $300-400 accomplishes the same thing here though.


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