Re: String bet question
 

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That's not correct, at least where I play. The chips go forward onto the table as if to call, it's a call whether you release them or not.

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A good way to determine if a string bet has occurred is if they player would be required to leave the chips in the pot they cannot raise, bu if they coudl retian their chips and fold they can still raise.

Re: String bet question
 

All of the cardrooms here would consider this a string bet.

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This is totally a string bet at the Oklahoma casinos I play at and it's not close. Poker isn't chess, the line is an action line for betting, once the chips cross the line they speak for themselves unless there was a prior verbal declaration. In other words, if he pushed enough chips for a call that's a call, if he pushed 1.5x the chips required or more it's a raise.

I take it the turn was an ace, by the way?

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i'm sure this was discussed on here ad naseum, but on the WSOP coverage, there is a hand where matasow seemingly makes a string "check" or "fold" i can't remember which. he has chips in his hand and moves it forward towards the center of the table, pauses. looks at his opponent. then pulls them back. what were peoples thoughts on this move?

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It was an angle shoot, and I thought it sad. I also thought the dealer/floorman should have called him on it. That is, of course, assuming it's the same hand I think it was. I am guessing it is. :-)

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i accidently did this once and had to take my raise back, im pretty sure i would have won the pot if they let me keep in it, cuz the guy behind me made runner runner 2 pair [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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OK, that enough debate, how did the hand finish?

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string bet, if his hand was still moving forward while he was putting the call down that would be an acceptable raise, once the chips are there it cannot be called a raise.

in matusow's wsop hand he ended up putting those chips in anyway, i was surprised they didn't do anything when he pulled them back initially though...

Re: String bet question
 

at canterbury it would not be called a string raise. the minute he takes his hands off of his chips it would though.

Re: String bet question
 

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i'm sure this was discussed on here ad naseum, but on the WSOP coverage, there is a hand where matasow seemingly makes a string "check" or "fold" i can't remember which. he has chips in his hand and moves it forward towards the center of the table, pauses. looks at his opponent. then pulls them back. what were peoples thoughts on this move?

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No Limit is different.

For example, when you lead bet you haven't bet until you release the chips, so taking a stack of twenty chips and cutting off six or eight chips is usually accepted here in Los Angeles.

There isn't a forward motion rule in no limit, probably because many players arrange their chips in front of their stacks before deciding what to do - this could be easily confused with forward motion.

I think Matasow was facing a bet. His move was to push chips out and then take them back without releasing them. I thought it looked pretty shady but it probably isn't against the rules as they are currently written. That said, I would think CLEAR forward motion would constitute at least a call when facing a bet, but my mind has been in computer breakdown hell so don't hold me to it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick