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W. Deranged 11-30-2005 08:56 PM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
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How does everyone feel about checking behind on the river?

Rob

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I'm not a fan.

private joker 11-30-2005 08:58 PM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
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How does everyone feel about checking behind on the river?

Rob

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it sucks.

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So does your plan of folding TPTK heads up for one bet on the river closing the action when both the flop and turn were checked through.

No offense, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Entity 11-30-2005 09:00 PM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
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How does everyone feel about checking behind on the river?

Rob

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it sucks.

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Thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think I'm in the habit of giving my opponents too much credit recently, as a byproduct of running like [censored] this this month. I was trying to think of what range pays me off, rather than thinking of what range pays Chris off (AJ, KQ?) because Chris's hand looks fairly transparent.

I'm just gonna excerpt from my chat to try to be more eloquent with what I'm saying here:

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[17:10] me: the main problem I had with chris's hand
[17:10] me: is I feel like he gets paid off by AJ and A9s
[17:11] me: and that other hands that might normally be payoff hands would have bet the turn
[17:11] me: like KT or KQ etc
[17:11] me: so I feel like his ability to be paid off by those hands is diminished by the turn action
[17:11] me: of course that narrows villain's range down quit ea bit
[17:12] me: to KJs, and maybe 99, AJ, A9s, and possibly another AK
[17:12] me: KJs/KJo
[17:15] me: so I was trying to figure out which of those hands pays off via check-call, which would checkraise and what our effective chances of being good are when we bet the river

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Rob

Pharity 12-01-2005 10:28 AM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
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and we may get a hand like 88 to make an incorrect fold.

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Wow, takes a tight player to fold a set for one bet in this spot [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

12-01-2005 11:48 AM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
Bet the flop, call the river.

newhizzle 12-01-2005 02:17 PM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
why not bet the flop?

id call

Chris Daddy Cool 12-07-2005 06:10 PM

results for those who care
 
forgot all about thi hand...

i called the checkraise and he showed KJ.

fwiw, i think this is a v good line with KJ since he knows I will bet at this card. and if i don't bet at it that means he wouldn't have gotten any money out of this hand anyways becuase if i'm not betting that ace i'm sure as hell not calling it.

heres one:
say villian led this river, is my play call or raise?

flawless_victory 12-07-2005 08:20 PM

Re: 25/50 AK hand
 
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How does everyone feel about checking behind on the river?

Rob

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it sucks.

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So does your plan of folding TPTK heads up for one bet on the river closing the action when both the flop and turn were checked through.

No offense, of course. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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HAHAHA!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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