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mgsimpleton 11-30-2005 01:26 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
i do that too. it just doesn't help me even a little in this particular hand.

JKratzer 11-30-2005 01:27 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
all-in preflop

xorbie 11-30-2005 01:36 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
i still dont think thats a great reason to pot the flop, because i just dont think this is a great flop to cbet on and not really one you need to pot, even with so many callers. hopefully they will likely be less likely to pull a move.

alternatively, you could even check the flop. protect your stack, but you might be risking the pot.

scdavis0 11-30-2005 02:33 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
people suck at live poker.. making it 300 str8 is NOT dumb

AZK 11-30-2005 02:34 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
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people suck at live poker.. making it 300 str8 is NOT dumb

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mgsimpleton 11-30-2005 02:37 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
good thing this was on party poker then. just assume that if i don't include any reads...

and if i ever include "because i'm a scared little bitch" in a live hand, shoot me now.

Chaostracize 11-30-2005 02:37 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
I think betting 500 on the flop conveys enough strength, and the person who wants to bluff raise you with a worse hand here, well, you'll be getting his money later anyway.

Obviously, a premo pair could come from the SB, but I think they are much more likely to be calling you down.

tdarko 11-30-2005 02:45 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
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I think betting 500 on the flop conveys enough strength

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this is playing scared
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and the person who wants to bluff raise you with a worse hand here, well, you'll be getting his money later anyway.


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so if a guy with a pair of 5's is feeling saucy and wants to semi-bluff at duck he still wins this pot. i don't understand your reasoning. maybe pop it big in a MTT but this is deep stack cash game poker, duck is better than that.

Chaostracize 11-30-2005 02:54 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
Betting 150 pf, then betting 2/3 pot on the flop is playing scared? You think you're going to be semi-bluffed a much larger % of the time if she bets 500 instead of 750? (Not being condescending, honest question... fwiw, duck believes this is true).

Also, I don't understand the second part of your post.

Edit: I think I'm just really wrong here.

FoxwoodsFiend 11-30-2005 02:58 AM

Re: 10/20 AA on the button after everyone and their mother limps in
 
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Betting 150 pf, then betting 2/3 pot on the flop is playing scared? You think you're going to be semi-bluffed a much larger % of the time if she bets 500 instead of 750? (Not being condescending, honest question... fwiw, duck believes this is true).

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I agree with you. 500 and 750 are both big bets which show great strength. You save 250 by betting 2/3 pot when you're behind because I don't think your hand can stand to call a check/raise. Given that any c/raise is going to be hard to fold to given the pot-size, I would not call a c/r of 500 nor of 750 and I think the 250 you save is worth SLIGHTLY bumping up the chance of a bluff.


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