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ellipse_87 11-28-2005 08:58 PM

Re: Do players iso-raise short stacks at PP20? i.e., should I r-r w KQ
 
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UTG+1 obviously has a hand which he feels he has showdown potential as he's trying to isolate UTG. What hands could he possibly have that are behind to your KQ?

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UTG+1 is confident of showdown potential against UTG. UTG's range includes the entire top 50% of pre-flop hands. Therefore, UTG+1's range includes hands that are behind KQo as well as hands that are ahead of KQo but will fold to a r-r.

11-28-2005 09:04 PM

Re: Do players iso-raise short stacks at PP20? i.e., should I r-r w KQ
 
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UTG+1 obviously has a hand which he feels he has showdown potential as he's trying to isolate UTG. What hands could he possibly have that are behind to your KQ?

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This is a $20 not a $215, you're giving your opponents WAY too much credit. I doubt UTG+1 is folding to a re-raise here, calling standards are way loose. Also you're assuming UTG+1 realises UTG's range is top 50%. I don't think he'd pull this move with QJ, JT etc... I mean, would you? In my opinion MY range for re-raising UTG+1 here is TT+, AQ+... you have plenty of chips to let this one go.

ellipse_87 11-28-2005 09:04 PM

Re: Do players iso-raise short stacks at PP20? i.e., should I r-r w KQ
 
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Unless you think UTG+1 is salivating over 350 chips with a bunch of people to act behind him.

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Actually his raise is about an even-money proposition b/c of the blinds. In any case, his position, as well as the expense involved in trying something fancy against him, has me coming over to your point of view, I think.

tigerite 11-28-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Do players iso-raise short stacks at PP20? i.e., should I r-r w KQ
 
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UTG+1 obviously has a hand which he feels he has showdown potential as he's trying to isolate UTG. What hands could he possibly have that are behind to your KQ?

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UTG+1 is confident of showdown potential against UTG. UTG's range includes the entire top 50% of pre-flop hands. Therefore, UTG+1's range includes hands that are behind KQo as well as hands that are ahead of KQo but will fold to a r-r.

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Wrong. This is a fold.


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