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waffle 11-27-2005 08:58 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
it's [censored] AJ, you're in the BB and you're paying one SB to enter a ginormous pot. do you think you won't make up that SB? if you're folding hands like this in raised pots in the BB in 6max games you are leaking tons of money out of the BB.

11-27-2005 08:59 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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Fold preflop. Pound these players with a better hand, if you were suited the call would be fine.

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No no no, and I might actually raise in this spot, if UTG were bit looser. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

GTSamIAm 11-27-2005 09:01 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Oh, you're in the big blind? I thought you were on the CO or something. Nevermind, you're completely right then.

deception5 11-27-2005 09:03 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.

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AJ is a strong hand here. It's possible we're dominated but it's not like full ring where it's very often the case. When you consider 66+, ATo+, A8s+, KTs+, KJo+ are all potential raises you do pretty well against them.

Spicymoose 11-27-2005 09:07 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
Check raise the flop. Given that you didn't, 3-bet it.

On the turn you have to pay 2 BB in order to win 9 if you want to call down. That would require about 20% equity. Against his range of 99, JJ+, AJ, KJ with a diamond, QJ with a diamond, AdTd+, KdQd, you have 25% equity. Call down.

Furthermore, we can fold if a diamond comes on the river, so we only pay 1 BB in those cases.

11-27-2005 09:12 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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What's so great about AJo here? I think calling is marginal, and this hand will be hard to play correctly postlop.

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Puhleeeeze.... loosen up and live a little. You have nearly even equity against even a TAGs raising standards here (about the top 13% of hands).

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

2,958,861,312 games 4.172 secs 709,218,914 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 49.8624 % 45.70% 04.16% { 77+, A8s+, KTs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo }
Hand 2: 50.1376 % 45.97% 04.16% { AJo } </pre><hr />

Edit: the only reason I don't raise is because we're out of position against a decent player who calls down postflop. If UTG could fold sometimes after we 3-bet PF, this is an easy raise.

GTSamIAm 11-27-2005 09:15 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
So you'd have no trouble playing with position and make a coldcall?

Spicymoose 11-27-2005 09:19 PM

Re: AJ vs Pre/Post flop Aggresion heads up
 
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So you'd have no trouble playing with position and make a coldcall?

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I have a huge problem with that. If we are going to play, you have to 3-bet. Folding wouldn't be awful though, but only because he is such a tight pre flop raiser. Against most people this is an easy 3-bet.


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