Re: Worth my tournament w/ OESFD
 

But if I'm ahead why wouldn't I want to run into a set?

Re: Worth my tournament w/ OESFD
 

Keep in mind that a bigger flush draw is also beating our hero.

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But if I'm ahead why wouldn't I want to run into a set?

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you are ahead of everything but a set.

i just don't want to chase everything out but monsters in this pot. i would call, hope to hit my straight card (second best would be the flush card) and then hope to get their money in on the turn.

with a bet and a raise in front of you if you hit your flush or straight on the turn i think they may do your betting for you on the turn.

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with a bet and a raise in front of you if you hit your flush or straight on the turn i think they may do your betting for you on the turn.

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I bet out the flop and was miniraised. If it makes a difference to ya.

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I bet out the flop and was miniraised. If it makes a difference to ya.

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it makes me think he doesn't have a set bc he wouldn't slowplay a set with that board, but i sure would hate to be up against a hand like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (which you probably aren't up against). maybe a higher flush draw for the villain? if so he has overcards too...i still like a call here.

Re: Worth my tournament w/ OES+FD
 

I think calling is better here because stacks are deep enough to peel one here.

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I think calling is better here because stacks are deep enough to peel one here.

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I think these type of hands can be played a bazillion ways. The bottom line is that you are not scared to race, push, call a push,mini-raise a mini-raiser, etc.... but folding is the only real mistake you could make on this flop. Like its been stated you are PROJECTED to win this hand even tho you are almost certainly behind at this point.

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but folding is the only real mistake you could make on this flop

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i think the only way anyone folds this to a minraise is if they choked on what they were eating and in their last breath of life couldn't hit the "call" button.

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it makes me think he doesn't have a set bc he wouldn't slowplay a set with that board, but i sure would hate to be up against a hand like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (which you probably aren't up against). maybe a higher flush draw for the villain? if so he has overcards too...i still like a call here.

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haven't pokerstoved it, but you have 12 outs against a bigger flush draw (6 pair + 6 oesd), so you're not it terrible shape by any means.

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I think calling is better here because stacks are deep enough to peel one here.

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I think these type of hands can be played a bazillion ways. The bottom line is that you are not scared to race, push, call a push,mini-raise a mini-raiser, etc.... but folding is the only real mistake you could make on this flop. Like its been stated you are PROJECTED to win this hand even tho you are almost certainly behind at this point.

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I agree that basically any play we make here is +EV. However, there's a very big difference between the different plays and I imagine some are worth way more than others. Just because we're not folding doesn't mean this is an important hand.