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A_C_Slater 11-25-2005 11:32 PM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
"I for one don't see how we could win a war with extraterrestrials If ETs have the technology to travel here over light-years of space-time, we very likely would have no chance of defeating them and their highly advanced technologies if it should ever come to intergalactic war."



Don't make the mistake of assuming they have to be from another planetary star system in this galaxy.

They could originate from another dimension. Maybe inter-dimensional travel is less advanced.

whiskeytown 11-25-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
I almost posted on this - glad I caught it.

It comes down to this....plain and simple...

IF an alien Civilization comes to our planet....they have developed some EXCEPTIONALLY powerful energy sources which no doubt could be turned into exceptional weapons.

If they can cross light years of space, a task that theoretically speaking, is impossible as we understand it without approaching light speed, which requires an infinate amount of energy to do, then I feel they could make us their bitch anytime they want.

Spending money on this is like spending military budget on fighting tidal waves of the "Deep Imapct" magnitude - if it's not futile because of it's scarcity, it's futile in the effort.

But many philosophers (and myself, for that matter) believe we'll never have face to face contact with alien races. For a society to get that sort of technology to cross interstellar distances means a lot of advances have to be made which will have military applications. They generally believe that a society will destroy itself before it gets that far.

There was a great Outer Limits where a guy discovered cold fusion and went insane cause he realized the oceans could be harnessed into a bomb that could vaporize earth - If I discovered a technology that provided unlimited energy and turned tap water into an immense destructive Bomb, I'd say [censored] it and bury it for another 50 years.

And sooner or later a nutjob would use that technology to do it - (like a terrorist) -

History tells us that anything we use as an energy source we usually turn into weapons (that is, if it didn't START as a weapon in the first place, like Atomic Weapons) - so unless they're really [censored] enlightened, I don't believe it will happen - I think we'll have to settle with radio signals.

RB

andyfox 11-26-2005 12:25 AM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
Probably about as serious a threat to us as Saddam was.

whiskeytown 11-26-2005 12:27 AM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
nh, sir...

wish I had thought of that - [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

RB

Stu Pidasso 11-26-2005 12:44 AM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
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Most Serious Military Threat Of All

Probably about as serious a threat to us as Saddam was.


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If you are correct the issue requires serious examination.

Stu

whiskeytown 11-26-2005 12:46 AM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
ah, no it doesn't...

You've been drinking the kool-aid too long, son

RB

Stu Pidasso 11-26-2005 03:37 AM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
[ QUOTE ]
ah, no it doesn't...

You've been drinking the kool-aid too long, son


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Saddaam was enough of a threat that we kept him in a box for 12 years prior to Gulf War II. Are you suggesting the efforts of those 12 years was wasted because Saddaam was completely harmless?

Stu

New001 11-26-2005 06:20 AM

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Probably about as serious a threat to us as Saddam was.

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Emphasis mine.

AngryCola 11-26-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Potentially The Most Serious Military Threat Of All
 
I've always found it sad that many are so willing to assume all people who say things like this are crazy. Maybe he is nuts, but just assuming someone is wacko because they talk about 'alien issues' is extremely worrisome.

OMG! You guys are crazy! How can you not know that the world is flat and the sun revolves around us? ROFL!

AngryCola 11-26-2005 01:33 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
But many philosophers (and myself, for that matter) believe we'll never have face to face contact with alien races. For a society to get that sort of technology to cross interstellar distances means a lot of advances have to be made which will have military applications. They generally believe that a society will destroy itself before it gets that far.

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It seems like probability suggests there would be a small percentage of civilizations that would make it past this stage.


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