Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 7 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)


Chip Counts:
Button: 2930 Chips
SB: 1215 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 4815 Chips</font>
UTG: 1040 Chips

Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Blinds are 150/300

PreFlop
UTG is All-In, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
SB is All-In, <font color="green">Hero .. ?</font>

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915 to win 3470 = 26% pot odds.

Not very good three-handed with a very marginal hand that is likely to be dominated.

Plus, the chips you could win aren't worth as much as the ones you could lose.

Pass.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

Fold and hope cheer for utg. If he wins you might take some easy blinds the next two hands.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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Reraise? I'm in the BB though, closing the action, and both of the other guys are all-in.

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Oh, I know. It's the intimidation factor. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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Plus, the chips you could win aren't worth as much as the ones you could lose.

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Fold + SB wins (agreeing his range is the strongest here)
Button: 2930 Chips
SB: 2555 Chips
Hero: 4515 Chips

Call + SB wins
Button: 2930 Chips
SB: 3470 Chips
Hero: 3600 Chips

Call + hero wins
Button: 2930 Chips
Hero: 7700 Chips


eh...pretty close. i don't know that ~a~ is THAT much better than ~b~, to pass on a chance for ~c~

tiger is a goot pushbottinbiatch. he can make ~b~ look like ~a~ in short order [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

Heh, but what I mean is, I physically can't re-raise. LOL

Well I suppose I should put in results, I did call, UTG had AKo, SB had 33, I spiked a 5, and won the HU easily. Booyacka etc. I think I'd call again, too, but I felt it was close.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 7 - 4 players (Converter: PGC)


Chip Counts:
Button: 2930 Chips
SB: 1215 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 4815 Chips</font>
UTG: 1040 Chips

Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Blinds are 150/300

PreFlop
UTG is All-In, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
SB is All-In, <font color="green">Hero .. ?</font>

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915 to win 3470 = 26% pot odds.

Not very good three-handed with a very marginal hand that is likely to be dominated.

Plus, the chips you could win aren't worth as much as the ones you could lose.

Pass.

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I don't know if this is true. And it's likely the reason he posted this hand. (though I could be way off, and when I first looked at the hand, I thought about myself playing it. And if I were just playing along, I would proabably fold.)

But let's look at the four situations:
Call and lose with UTG winning, SB 2nd, HERO 3rd.
SB 350
HERO 3600
Button 2930
BB 3120

HERO can steal the next two hands and get 1000 back. And if anyone but SB calls without AA/KK, well, they have some nice balls.


HERO calls and SB wins:
Now we're ITM with
SB at 3470
Hero at 3600
Button at 2930

HERO still has the (slight) advantage, and has 10xBB to work his way to first.


HERO calls and wins:
Hero at 7040 ready to pwn
Button - who cares, he's pwned.

Now, if the two shorties tie, well, that's unfortunate, but hero is still in command.


Like I said, if I were in the game, I would probably fold without thinking too much. But I think it would be a mistake to fold in this spot considering that at this point, you are practically gaurenteed 3rd, and if you call and win you have an incredible advantage.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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Heh, but what I mean is, I physically can't re-raise. LOL


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Right, I forgot about this. You could at least type "I would reraise if I COULD!"

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

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915 to win 3470 = 26% pot odds.

Not very good three-handed with a very marginal hand that is likely to be dominated.

Plus, the chips you could win aren't worth as much as the ones you could lose.

Pass.

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I don't really feel like coming up with ranges, but:

Against their actual hands, you only have 19% equity.

However change UTG into AQ, and you have 28% equity. Change the 33 into 66 and you have 21% equity.

Intuitively, to me, that means that best case you have slight +cEV and in the worst case you have pretty steep -cEV. This is a fold.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

I fold and am either ITM or have the chance to pick up a bunch of free chips by exploiting the big stack on the bubble with super short stack situation.

Re: $55, a slightly different bubble situation
 

I'd call this in a flash. 900 to win 2500...maybe less? Surely you've got enough equity.