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I guess it all depends on how likely you think it is big stack will finally realize how many chips he has. I'm guessing he's eventually going to decide he's had enough of you stealing the blinds he wants to take...

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Hey, somebody remembered the SB has a ton of chips! That's why I voted "fold".

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so? Thats a terrible reason on its own. push this one up their a$$es

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Ok...now I checked it out. BB on maniac and SB on loose makes the a +.9.

My point above is only that even giving SB a loose range may be too conservative. There would have to be some overriding circumstance to fold here. For example, if my sister was on fire in the next room and I had to choose between pouring water on her or pushing...I'd put her out and time out.

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Ok...now I checked it out. BB on maniac and SB on loose makes the a +.9.

My point above is only that even giving SB a loose range may be too conservative. There would have to be some overriding circumstance to fold here. For example, if my sister was on fire in the next room and I had to choose between pouring water on her or pushing...I'd put her out and time out.

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Wow. Glad it's so obvious. The evidence is clearly overwhelming. Sorry to trouble you.

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fold. hyperion knows you're pushing a wide range, SB might wake up. look for a better spot to push you fackin lag! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Ok...now I checked it out. BB on maniac and SB on loose makes the a +.9.

My point above is only that even giving SB a loose range may be too conservative. There would have to be some overriding circumstance to fold here. For example, if my sister was on fire in the next room and I had to choose between pouring water on her or pushing...I'd put her out and time out.

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Wow. Glad it's so obvious. The evidence is clearly overwhelming. Sorry to trouble you.

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? no trouble whatsoever...it took like 5 secs.

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I push any two with 5xBB easily and with just over 5x and better than 32o I think this should be pretty easy.

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fold. hyperion knows you're pushing a wide range, SB might wake up. look for a better spot to push you fackin lag! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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yes, but hyperion knows that I know that he knows I'm pushing a wide range. So that means I'm not pushing any two, just a lot of things. He even said himself he's folding the worst offsuit aces.

Plus the sb is definitely much tighter than he should be here.

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Ok...now I checked it out. BB on maniac and SB on loose makes the a +.9.

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] There is no way that this can be right. I would probably fold here if the BB knew I was a 2+2er. It goes to a push IMO if you know who he is and he doesn't know who you are (and thus gives you a tighter range). I would also be more inclined to push if the SB folds too much here and gives the BB a walk. It seems like a very tough choice to me.

After running the program, it is a 1.3% mistake to push if the SB is on L and the BB is on M. That is kinda what I figured...though a push still might be correct here. They just have to play somewhat tighter then that. After looking at sngpt it is still a very tough choice and I can't really blame either decision here.

Brad

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fold. hyperion knows you're pushing a wide range, SB might wake up. look for a better spot to push you fackin lag! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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yes, but hyperion knows that I know that he knows I'm pushing a wide range. So that means I'm not pushing any two, just a lot of things. He even said himself he's folding the worst offsuit aces.

Plus the sb is definitely much tighter than he should be here.

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well if he knows that you know that he knows that you know...etc.... the bottom line is you want his blinds and he knows it, so his range will be wider.

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After running the program, it is a 1.3% mistake to push if the SB is on L and the BB is on M. blame either decision here.

Brad

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When I do it it gives me +.5 for the above ranges. Someone messed up.