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RED_RAIN 11-14-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
Against someone who is .5 aggression. I'd fold the turn.

phish 11-14-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
If he had AK or AQ (or even AJ), he likely would have reraised pre-flop. So if he has an A, there's a very good chance that your kicker is good. Shouldn't even consider folding the river.

charlieD 11-14-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
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If he had AK or AQ (or even AJ), he likely would have reraised pre-flop. So if he has an A, there's a very good chance that your kicker is good. Shouldn't even consider folding the river.

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loose passives rarely reraise these hands preflop

1800GAMBLER 11-14-2005 06:47 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
I can see the purpose calling the turn and folding the river serves but not too sure if it's correct without working it out.

From combinations you are winning about 60% of the time considering he'd play little aces this way. You only need to win 10% of the time. So he would only have to bet his little aces 17% of the time's he held them for you to be correct to call.

Do 1/5 of the players with these stats bet the river AND c/r the flop with A2? I don't think so. The reason i don't think that is because i don't think the c/r the flop rather than the river bet so i would be more inclined the fold the turn.

CardSharpCook 11-14-2005 07:22 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
For clarity, he raised the flop. He has position.

marsvolta619 11-14-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
I'm just wondering does anyone try to win this hand here or do you automatically give him credit for a better ace? Even LPPs know how to play position

DpR 11-14-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
I think folding the turn is bad here. AJ is the most likely holding and you have 8 outs to chop and 3 to win. I also think that this type player is calling all suited aces preflop and raising them maybe 50% of the time on this flop.

Bet folding the river agaisnt this player seems best since I do not think he is raising a worse hand. Check call is OK.

SO, I think folding the river is better than folding the turn. But, I think you are good enough here for the river call.

AceHigh 11-14-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
Isn't this how a loose, passive player plays AK? You can probably fold on the flop.

daryn 11-14-2005 10:52 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
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I really think I'm calling down hoping to catch a split pot or a miracle T which may or may not be good.

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it's bad. very bad.

CardSharpCook 11-14-2005 11:38 PM

Re: Paying people off.
 
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I really think I'm calling down hoping to catch a split pot or a miracle T which may or may not be good.

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it's bad. very bad.

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either you need to speak in complete sentences, or I need to be more clear in mine. What I was saying is that IF I choose to not to fold, then all I have is the HOPE that I will "catch a split pot or a miracle T which may or may not be good." What do you mean when you say:
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it's bad. very bad.

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