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Clarkmeister 11-10-2005 01:15 AM

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There are a lot of jobs that make you take drug tests,

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Exactomundo! And many of them are even mandated by the government, both at the state and federal levels. One obvious example is the Department of Transportation regulations.

http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/

Jack of Arcades 11-10-2005 01:24 AM

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

Voltron87 11-10-2005 01:27 AM

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

Clarkmeister 11-10-2005 01:32 AM

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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Neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented

Jack of Arcades 11-10-2005 01:38 AM

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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please, won't somebody think of the children!?

like I said, I'll expect random drug testing of everybody that appears on television. or hell, how about everyone, since kids can see it everywhere.

these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.

Voltron87 11-10-2005 01:39 AM

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both your examples arent really all that relevant

Jack of Arcades 11-10-2005 01:39 AM

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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Neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented

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It's been long ruled that schoolchildren have just about zero rights.

Voltron87 11-10-2005 01:40 AM

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these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.

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tons of kids go out and do this on their own.

Clarkmeister 11-10-2005 01:42 AM

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both your examples arent really all that relevant

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I could come up with dozens of others. Is there a point? It's legal, constitutional, and quite frankly, the correct policy. No one complains about the USOC, NFL or NCAA testing for drugs, what's the big deal about baseball? Who mandates the testing is irrelevant.

Jack of Arcades 11-10-2005 01:44 AM

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these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.

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tons of kids go out and do this on their own.

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then someone should let them know what they're getting probably doesn't work, considering they're working on a teenage budget and doing this secretly.

you know, maybe everything a teenager knows about steroids shouldn't come from watching rafael palmeiro.


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