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flawless_victory 11-03-2005 02:28 PM

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Kane,

Is that all? Seems kinda low for a player of your ability. Not doubting your ability...I just thought your #'s would be higher.

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first, im not sure what makes you think you know how well kane plays...
second, i think alot of ppl assumptions about what is poss longterm are way out of line and based on running hot for a brief period.
bad [censored] happens in poker.

Yeti 11-03-2005 02:28 PM

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T I L T

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You have been saying this for ages, and whilst I agree you could do better, it would not be so much better as to satisfy everyone expecting 6+ or whatever. Most people have no idea of the swings in this game over 200k hands.

Ben5505 11-03-2005 02:28 PM

Re: Another winrate thread
 
A winrate of nearly 3BB/100 over that many hands is awesome for the 10/20 game...hell I would take it at 5/10SH game.

punter11235 11-03-2005 02:29 PM

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I think it seems a bit low considering a strong player can 8 table the 1/2 6 max on 1/20th the bankroll and variance for around $180/hr.

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or 4table 600NL 6max for 240$/hour. But still 240 is not 350 :-)

KaneKungFu123 11-03-2005 02:29 PM

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I think it seems a bit low considering a strong player can 8 table the 1/2 6 max on 1/20th the bankroll and variance for around $180/hr.

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When I 8 tabled 1/2 I made about $80-100/hr if that helps.

scdavis0 11-03-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Another winrate thread
 
I looked back at my stats and I'd actually say $160/hr for the 8 tabling 1/2 is more accurate.

Those games are just super soft and you are seeing 500+ hands an hour.

Indeed $160 is less than $350, but again it takes like 1/20th the bankroll to do it. I would have figured Kane's hourly to be north of the $500 range.

punter11235 11-03-2005 02:32 PM

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'Kinda low' compared to what? 10/20 is a lot harder than 5/10.

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I have very limited experience in 10/20 (like few sessions) and somewhat more in 5/10 6max(like one month) so I know nothing. So my question is : does anybody think that 5/10 6max at Party is harder than 10/20 fullring ? That's my first impression (as I said its not based on anything reasonable other than I saw some uber fishes at 10/20 and not so many of them in 5/10). Is it completely wrong or somebody agree ?

Best wishes

punter11235 11-03-2005 02:35 PM

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I don't think 8-10 PTBB/100 at 5/10 short is unreasonable.

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Oh well. I cant imagine my longterm winrate at 600 6max be higher than 5PTBB/100 maybe 6. (now I am running really hot despite losing 15xbuyin in one week in the past and Iam just above 5.5).

KaneKungFu123 11-03-2005 02:37 PM

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T I L T

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You have been saying this for ages, and whilst I agree you could do better, it would not be so much better as to satisfy everyone expecting 6+ or whatever. Most people have no idea of the swings in this game over 200k hands.

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Yeah, I know. Thats why I pointed out that i ran at 8.5ptbb for 30K hands, and dropped from 3.6ptbb at 180K hands to 2.96ptbb after 200K hands, and at 50/100 I'm at ----hahahahahahahaha you dont want to know.

Like I said on my website, it is also harder when you start playing 30hrs/wk because your game selection is worse. I dont know how many hands I played 3-handed with you, or 4-handed with you and FSU.

Yeti 11-03-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Another winrate thread
 
First off, everyone needs to read the thread I linked to. All the numbers people are quoting here are basically worthless.

Having said that, I made 400/hr at the 1k 6max over 100k hands. Nowadays I thrash around in the 2k, with twice the variance, thrice the stress, and a dollar per hour amount that is waaaay below what I was making at the 1k.

Why? A few reasons. I obviously likely ran way hot at the 1k. Ego. And because I still don't feel the variance gods have given me a chance at the 2k yet, and if I start putting things together I will take off.

But, once again, all of this is basically conjecture. Just try to play your hands well, ignore what everyone else is making, and in the end, everything will be ok. And never forget how lucky you are to have such a profitable hobby.

Oh, and 1k 6max is way easier than the 2k. I know tons of people who agree.


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