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11-02-2005 03:00 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
He is, and good for him. I hope he can get the rest of his party to accept the cuts.

whiskeytown 11-02-2005 03:14 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
for starters, a better energy program.

I would like to see massive public funding into improving the renewable technologies we have right now. That's how all the other advancements mentioned (space program/nuke bomb) happened - not private industry making a toy they can build obselance into right off the bat and milk it's patents for 50 years -

Once you do that, so many other things start improving - For example - respritory diseases are higher around coal plants and in the coal industry - that's increased health costs, many of which are on the public dole cause they're poor - instead if paying big ass health care costs to make them healthy, how about we just don't make them sick?

And I'm still pissed that a party that calls itself "pro-life" rolled back restrictions on mercury emissions from those plants to the point where Doctors have to advise pregnant women not to eat fish for fear of mercury in the fish harming the fetus.

This administration has no foresight beyond the next quartly stock report.

If you told the world that in 2050 the oil will run out and we knew it for a FACT, the Democrats would say "whoa - we have to find new Technologies NOW, put restrictions on consumption, and focus all of science on finding cheap renewable energy sources for the WORLD, not just the countries with lots of money who can afford licensing fees, patent issues, intellectual property rights, etc, etc...

The Republicans would say "now how much money can we get out of the American people - we only have 50 years left - so let's make some profit."

That's what they're doing right now, in fact -

In short - in any circumstance where Big Business would do something that would be detrimental to the American People but good for business, I think Kerry would be standing and holding the line whereas Republicans will stretch out their hand, take the donation, and open the door for corporate rape of the majority of Americans.

RB

vulturesrow 11-02-2005 03:35 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
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for starters, a better energy program.

I would like to see massive public funding into improving the renewable technologies we have right now. That's how all the other advancements mentioned (space program/nuke bomb) happened - not private industry making a toy they can build obselance into right off the bat and milk it's patents for 50 years -

Once you do that, so many other things start improving - For example - respritory diseases are higher around coal plants and in the coal industry - that's increased health costs, many of which are on the public dole cause they're poor - instead if paying big ass health care costs to make them healthy, how about we just don't make them sick?

And I'm still pissed that a party that calls itself "pro-life" rolled back restrictions on mercury emissions from those plants to the point where Doctors have to advise pregnant women not to eat fish for fear of mercury in the fish harming the fetus.

This administration has no foresight beyond the next quartly stock report.

If you told the world that in 2050 the oil will run out and we knew it for a FACT, the Democrats would say "whoa - we have to find new Technologies NOW, put restrictions on consumption, and focus all of science on finding cheap renewable energy sources for the WORLD, not just the countries with lots of money who can afford licensing fees, patent issues, intellectual property rights, etc, etc...

The Republicans would say "now how much money can we get out of the American people - we only have 50 years left - so let's make some profit."

That's what they're doing right now, in fact -

In short - in any circumstance where Big Business would do something that would be detrimental to the American People but good for business, I think Kerry would be standing and holding the line whereas Republicans will stretch out their hand, take the donation, and open the door for corporate rape of the majority of Americans.

RB

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And to think people scoff at me for believing in God...

bobman0330 11-02-2005 03:45 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
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-A new Apollo program to develop alternative energy sources and achieve energy independence. This country had the brains and technology to build nuclear bombs in three years before computers were invented. We put a man on the moon ten years after we set our minds to it. Surely we can come up with a solar panel that gets >50% efficiency....

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Or instead of spending untold billions of dollars on a boondoggle, we could just build more nuclear plants.

El Barto 11-02-2005 04:34 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
This thread shows the flaw in logic of many here. It is easy to pick apart every little thing about the incumbant administration. It is not so easy to have a better plan of action, indeed those mentioned so far in this thread make me happy they are not in office. The problems with Bush are minor compared to what we would have with Kerry.

Besides any administration would be weak without the boy-genius working for them:

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FishHooks 11-02-2005 06:10 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
If you want to take the aggregate functions as an example, consumer spending is about 2/3 of GDP, cutting back tax cuts does create a trickle down or multiplier effect. It must be a miracle to you that even with Bush's tax cuts they government is generating more money in tax revenue...funny how that works.

11-02-2005 11:53 PM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
The recent increase in revenues happened because a business tax break expired at the end of 2004.

Not even Republicans believe tax cuts increase revenue. Here's an article by one of your heroes, Stephen Moore, written in 2003, about how Bush's tax cuts will lower revenue and force the government to stop spending so much. In retrospect it seems he was right about the first part but hilariously wrong about the second part.

FishHooks 11-03-2005 12:23 AM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
Recent increase in revenue, this has been going on longer than since 2004. Also read some stuff on the new soon to be Fed Chairmen, see what he thinks of this issue as well.

natedogg 11-03-2005 01:02 AM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
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Not even Republicans believe tax cuts increase revenue.

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No one with half a brain cares if they increase revenue. That's never the reason for lowering taxes. It's whether or not they are good for the economy and spur investment and create jobs. And guess what? They do. That's practically irrefutable. Revenue?? That's a priority? You've gotta be joking.

natedogg

11-03-2005 01:52 AM

Re: If John Kerry had been elected we\'d...
 
If John Kerry had been elected we'd...

still have an a..hole for president.


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