Re: Isolation or not?
 

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My reason for that statement was that I found myself over-anylzing pre-flop too much and not concentrating on post-flop and I thought your post was indicative of this as well


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Hehe I hear you.
I analyze everything ALOT. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: Isolation or not?
 

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But, if your set holds up you should win big with it.

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If you hit your set you may win a big pot, small pot or loose big. Sometimes you win a hand with 66 as well.

I think it's EV- to call with 66 with only one limper if you don't have loose passive players behind you. But it's probably quite close to EV 0.

ITH is saying you need 2 limpers to call with 66-55 in middle position.
SSHE is a bit too loose to even comment on here.

IMPORTANT information about conditions:
The table does have 3 players taking the flop on average.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

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But, if your set holds up you should win big with it.

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If you hit your set you may win a big pot, small pot or loose big. Sometimes you win a hand with 66 as well.

I think it's EV- to call with 66 with only one limper if you don't have loose passive players behind you. But it's probably quite close to EV 0.

ITH is saying you need 2 limpers to call with 66-55 in middle position.
SSHE is a bit too loose to even comment on here.

IMPORTANT information about conditions:
The table does have 3 players taking the flop on average.

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oops, given this information...

66 - R

Re: Isolation or not?
 

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oops, given this information...

66 - R

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Please enlighten me on how you think here.
Hopefully I will learn something important. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Isolation or not?
 

I raise every hand but 88 and 66.

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I raise every hand but 88 and 66.

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Exactly, thank you. I think a lot of people are vastly underestimating both how wide a 30% hand range is and how powerful our position is.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

what limit is this? is 30 VP$IP that loose?

raise everything but 66 (88 is close either way but it's too good to just call here). 77 I will limp though.

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is 30 VP$IP that loose?

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A 30% VPIP without the top 5% of hands which villain would have raised:

88-55,ATs-A2s,KJs-K5s,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,AQo-A7o,A5o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o

A lot of garbage in there.

Re: Isolation or not?
 

Remember that even loose players probably fold more hands in EP.

In EP I think its more like:
TT-22,AJs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJ-9s, JT-9s,T9-98s, AQo-A8o, KT+, QJ (still alot of trash though)
Raising with: AA-JJ, AK (about 5%)

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is 30 VP$IP that loose?

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A 30% VPIP without the top 5% of hands which villain would have raised:

88-55,ATs-A2s,KJs-K5s,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,AQo-A7o,A5o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o

A lot of garbage in there.

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sorry - I'm thinking 6max stats here

FWIW, I think a 5% PFR raises a lot less hands than the ones you've omitted from EP, probably AA-JJ, AKs+, AK only

edit: supern beat me to it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]