Re: My first NL post
 

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Why the [censored] would you hijack my first thread in this forum [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Nice hand. Both of them. I never make that laydown though. Was this Party or skins, btw? And welcome to the forum. Hopefully your luck turns.

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It was party. I hope my luck turns too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PS-I just noticed in the FAQ that you guys dont like KK PF laydown posts. Oops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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At party I make that laydown like never.

Re: My first NL post
 

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Why the [censored] would you hijack my first thread in this forum [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Nice hand. Both of them. I never make that laydown though. Was this Party or skins, btw? And welcome to the forum. Hopefully your luck turns.

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It was party. I hope my luck turns too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PS-I just noticed in the FAQ that you guys dont like KK PF laydown posts. Oops [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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At party I make that laydown like never.

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I thought you used to be a NL regular hence the alias and moved to limit or something.

um..don't 3 bet KK like that since you go broke vs AA and let other worse hands fold. (unless villan is donk and bad enough to go to the felt with less than KK)

I think fold was decent after he re-reraises you

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um..don't 3 bet KK like that since you go broke vs AA and let other worse hands fold.

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So what is the best line. Call and then CR all in on most flops?

Re: My first NL post
 

So you guys means that 3-bet here is "always" wrong? And a call is megastandard.

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So you guys means that 3-bet here is "always" wrong? And a call is megastandard.

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It's wrong unless they guy is a donk in some manner or another.

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So you guys means that 3-bet here is "always" wrong? And a call is megastandard.

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It's wrong unless they guy is a donk in some manner or another.

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Ok, against a donk or a maniac who will raise with "anything" I understand that a 3-bet is in order.

Im with you, but can you clearify why a call is much better than a 3-bet against a normal thinking player? I use to 3-bet here almost any time and that might be a leak of mine then.

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So you guys means that 3-bet here is "always" wrong? And a call is megastandard.

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It's wrong unless they guy is a donk in some manner or another.

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Ok, against a donk or a maniac who will raise with "anything" I understand that a 3-bet is in order.

Im with you, but can you clearify why a call is much better than a 3-bet against a normal thinking player? I use to 3-bet here almost any time and that might be a leak of mine then.

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The problem with 3-betting is that it very often announces your hand as KK/AA (this is in normal situations with normal raising standards, i.e. blind defense situations this does not necessarily apply), so you lose a lot of value against JJ/QQ but still lose a lot against AA.

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Why the [censored] would you 3-bet?

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This will fold worse hands and only leave AA, agreed.
But if you're not 3-betting, do you basically call villains re-raise and play it for trips value (playing weak post-flop)? What is your standard line on a ragged flop (bet, fold to re-raise)? On a flop containing a J or Q how far do you go to find out if you're up against JJ/QQ or AA (if that's the hand range you think you're up against)?

I see this is not a very clearly defined question, but with my kings running into aces I seem to loose my stack every time which cannot be good. Need to plug this leak!

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Villian minraises before the flop, imho that will mean AK, JJ, QQ much more often than AA, will that not make sence?

And IF you call and the flop comes something like 732 r, how do you normally proceed?

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So you guys means that 3-bet here is "always" wrong? And a call is megastandard.

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If he raised more than a min-raised I'd feel better about flat-calling, but I don't mind a 3-bet vs a min-raise