Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

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Raise the river and fold to a 3-bet. Villain mostly has 88-KK here.

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I would have called the river and felt okay about it if I got 3 bet. Getting 16:1 HU you really fold?

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wait, Im a little tired, but is that a cryptic way of saying u call the river 3bet?

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

Tilt-prevention, for me at least. We probably aren't good even 6% of the time, but...

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

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Raise the river and fold to a 3-bet. Villain mostly has 88-KK here.

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I would have called the river and felt okay about it if I got 3 bet. Getting 16:1 HU you really fold?

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wait, Im a little tired, but is that a cryptic way of saying u call the river 3bet?

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I don't think it's that cryptic. Wait, was that cryptic?

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

Call the turn, raise the river. Easily.

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CO is loose and moderately aggressive.

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Thats why I don't raise the turn when the duce pairs because it won't make a bit of a difference how he reacts.

However considering how the hand played out I'd call the turn as you did. I'd even call some low river cards if his probability of bluffing is quite high.

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Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

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CO is loose and moderately aggressive.

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Thats why I don't raise the turn when the duce pairs because it won't make a bit of a difference how he reacts.



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I was going to raise any card <T. The fact that it paired the board was just a coincidence, I wasn't raelly trying to represent a 2 here.

I don't think he's bluffing that often once he 3 bets. 12:1 with ace high after he 3 bets the turn doesn't seem like enough to me, especially since there are almost no draws on the board.

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

raising the turn makes no sense. its really a huge misplay. you cant fold a better hand, you only fold 3 outters.

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raising the turn makes no sense. its really a huge misplay. you cant fold a better hand, you only fold 3 outters.

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You really think he folds 3 outters?

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

i wouldnt expect him to fold a 3outter like Ax, but often a 3 outter would. the only sense a turn raise makes is if you think there is value in a river bet.

raising for free showdown plays when you cant fold a better hand is pointless unless you gain a bet on the turn when the opponent would have checkfolded a weaker hand on the river or the metagame considerations of making the play are rather high, which they usually arent especially if youre playing on party where the playerbase is so large.

Re: Ace high on a ragged board in position
 

I'm not going to bet the river if he checks to me and I think there's a good chance he'll check ace high on the river. I don't agree that a turn raise only makes sense if I think there's value in a river bet.