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sublyme 10-27-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
I want to play 2-7 sooo much yet all my college friends ever want to play is hold 'em. They won't even try omaha ;/

DHamilton97 10-27-2005 05:43 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
Ever since Harrah's took over they've [censored] the WSOP up. I mean what's the difference if they used 10 tables for a mixed event ? They still get there buy fees, still have to pay a dealer, and there's still 9 players at each table. Anyone think it's possible a lot of players might do a boycott of the WSOP like they did the WPT ? Wonder what would happen if they went to Jack Binion and formed some sort of newer WSOP. Hmm, anyone else think that could happen? I'm sure that's something he really wants back.

Kevmath 10-27-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
Earlier this year, the Plaza in downtown Vegas tried holding a series of tournaments, incuding Razz, A-5 lowball, HORSE, etc. That didn't go over too well, although the promotion was incredibly weak and most people don't seem to want to go to the Plaza.

shaniac 10-27-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
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Anyone think it's possible a lot of players might do a boycott of the WSOP like they did the WPT ?

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Yeah, none of the top pros have showed up for the WPT this year.

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Wonder what would happen if they went to Jack Binion and formed some sort of newer WSOP

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There is only one WSOP, and Harrah's owns it.

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Hmm, anyone else think that could happen?

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No.

MonkeeMan 10-27-2005 05:59 PM

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Earlier this year, the Plaza in downtown Vegas tried holding a series of tournaments, incuding Razz, A-5 lowball, HORSE, etc. That didn't go over too well, although the promotion was incredibly weak and most people don't seem to want to go to the Plaza.

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I was not impressed by the Plaza. When we were there in July it was a ghost town in there.

bogey 10-27-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
yeh i agree completely. Harrah's is diluting the WSOP brand/image so much that pretty soon its going to become borderline meaningless to have won a bracelet. I think the WSOP should have one tournament for each of the different games each with a 10k buyin, so only 1 NL hold'em, 1 pot limit omaha, etc.

TruePoker CEO 10-27-2005 06:10 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
1. Daniel writes : "The people in control aren't interested in helping poker flourish, they have a bottom line to think about that takes precedence over all else."

If there is money to be made during the WSOP from hosting a Mixed Events tourney in Las Vegas, why can't Daniel or some of the other people interested in helping poker flourish explain to someone other than Harrah's, such Wynn, the potential profits to be made.

2. Better yet, why not get the heavily-moneyed pros themselves to "four-wall" a concurrent tournament series in Las Vegas, or on an off-date somewhere else, featuring these non-NLHE games ?

We do not spread many "nontraditional" games at Truepoker, but we certainly would be willing to help a tourney series promote PL Omaha and PL Omaha8.

Truepoker CEO

shaniac 10-27-2005 06:39 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
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2. Better yet, why not get the heavily-moneyed pros themselves to "four-wall" a concurrent tournament series in Las Vegas, or on an off-date somewhere else, featuring these non-NLHE games ?

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Players are lobbying for the inclusion of these events in the WSOP, not a random series of events elsewhere (such as the Plaza) which will be less well-attended and less prestigious.

Winning the Wynn Obscuro Lowball Event isn't what people are looking for.

Anything Harrah's chooses to spread at the WSOP 2006 will be well-attended. Period. If you spread A-5 lowball in 2006, it would get more entrants than back in the day when they still played that game.

10-27-2005 06:41 PM

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Well, the casino's prerogative is to make money, and Hold'em is where the money is right now. I would like them to spread other games as well, though.

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I have a friend who works in finance at the RIO... and last WSOP their cages, eateries, and bars raked in over 87% more money than any other month in the history of the RIO.

Can't they give a little back to the Poker Players by building more bathroom facilities and/or adding the events we want to see?

10-27-2005 06:43 PM

Re: Negreanu Criticizes the WSOP \'s one-dimensional lineup
 
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Ever since Harrah's took over they've [censored] the WSOP up. I mean what's the difference if they used 10 tables for a mixed event ? They still get there buy fees, still have to pay a dealer, and there's still 9 players at each table. Anyone think it's possible a lot of players might do a boycott of the WSOP like they did the WPT ? Wonder what would happen if they went to Jack Binion and formed some sort of newer WSOP. Hmm, anyone else think that could happen? I'm sure that's something he really wants back.

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Binion signed a hefty "non-competitive agreement" and he's still getting paid like a fat oil tycoon of the royalities.

The best bet would be for a pro... someone like Phil to start a new "Super-Series" of poker with $25K minimum buy-ins.


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