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flawless_victory 10-27-2005 03:02 AM

Re: how much $
 
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$1135

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gl with that.

mikech 10-27-2005 03:10 AM

Re: how much $
 
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$1135

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gl with that.

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do you really think he's calling half-pot twice the frequency of calling pot?

DonButtons 10-27-2005 03:12 AM

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well, he has a Q... likely w/ a busted heart draw... bet 500-600 and let him look you up.

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etizzle 10-27-2005 03:12 AM

Re: how much $
 
how often do you think a push gets called by QT-AQ? I guess its tough with no reads as the donkeys might call alot, the average/bad tighties never call (but might call 500), and the good/thinking players will sometimes but usually not call.

Also, its not like I can rep a busted draw (and he likely didnt have a draw) so i guess that pushes it towards a smaller bet. I cant see him having a hand to bluff with here other than a total flop steal that turned into a two-way draw.

Spladle Master 10-27-2005 03:13 AM

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$1135

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gl with that.

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do you really think he's calling half-pot twice the frequency of calling pot?

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And I don't consider this a rhetorical question. Maybe you do think this. I don't. Tell me why you disagree please.

Ulysses 10-27-2005 03:13 AM

Re: how much $
 
Dude has about exactly a pot bet left, right? I just stick it in there.

mikech 10-27-2005 03:17 AM

Re: how much $
 
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$1135

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gl with that.

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do you really think he's calling half-pot twice the frequency of calling pot?

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And I don't consider this a rhetorical question. Maybe you do think this. I don't. Tell me why you disagree please.

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it's not a rhetorical question. i'm asking flawless if he really thinks a half-pot bet here will get called twice as often as a pot-bet, which is what it would take for half-pot to be the better bet. i think a pot-bet (which also happens, in this hand, to be an all-in) is the better bet.

Spladle Master 10-27-2005 03:21 AM

Re: how much $
 
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$1135

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gl with that.

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do you really think he's calling half-pot twice the frequency of calling pot?

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And I don't consider this a rhetorical question. Maybe you do think this. I don't. Tell me why you disagree please.

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it's not a rhetorical question. i'm asking flawless if he really thinks a half-pot bet here will get called twice as often as a pot-bet, which is what it would take for half-pot to be the better bet. i think a pot-bet (which also happens, in this hand, to be an all-in) is the better bet.

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Me too. Probably should have indicated that I was directing my post towards flawless.

flawless_victory 10-27-2005 03:21 AM

Re: how much $
 
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$1135

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gl with that.

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do you really think he's calling half-pot twice the frequency of calling pot?

[/ QUOTE ]i dont know... in that game, id often push, and expect KQ to call... but thats only if my image was really good, guy was tilty, etc...
if id just sat down, id bet like 400/500 and hope to squeeeeeze some value... if he doesnt think you are full of it, he aint calling with TP. the game is aggro, but he didnt "just call" the turn planning to put it all in on the end unless hero is waaay beat. he prob has the QhJh, and most will call 500 here almost every time w/ that hand, calling a push never.
if hes a cleard donkey, push. if youve been at the table, and showed down some nasty sh!t, push... mostly value bet a little... 600 is too much.

etizzle 10-27-2005 04:02 AM

Re: how much $
 
the problem is that I dont see how he can call a pot bet with QT-AQ. What could I be calling the flop with and playing like this that doesnt have him beat?

Of course he may not be thinking along these lines, or at all.


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